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Old 04-19-2005, 03:33 AM
the_rookie the_rookie is offline
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The check raise on the river seems highly donkish...

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It'd suck if he checked through, but I thought there's high probability that he'd bet with his KK.

I'm thinking on the lines of, what would I do if I was in his position and checked to on the river??
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Old 04-19-2005, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: Handreading posts seem to be in nowadays

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Old 04-19-2005, 09:56 AM
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What makes you think he doesn't have AK and check behind? All of his play is justifyable with AK (although not exactly correct).

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It'd suck if he checked through, but I thought there's high probability that he'd bet with his KK.

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Old 04-19-2005, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: Handreading posts seem to be in nowadays

I would say villan has Q10 or a weaker Q.

hero: AQ, QQ, JJ. JJ would get my vote. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 04-19-2005, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Handreading posts seem to be in nowadays

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The check raise on the river seems highly donkish...


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I like the check-raise. A lot.

Against a reasonably aggressive opponent this should be clearly +EV.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: Handreading posts seem to be in nowadays

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What makes you think he doesn't have AK and check behind? All of his play is justifyable with AK (although not exactly correct).

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Going for a check-raise is always something of a gamble. Yes, if he has this one specific holding he *might* check behind. Then again, he might fold if we lead off so it's not clear that we've lost anything by going for the check-raise.

Much more often villain will have something like the hand he's representing and will bet now that we've shown weakness on the river.

It's a calculated gamble, but I don't think you could ever convince me that it's not +EV. I don't think this is close.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: Handreading posts seem to be in nowadays

BB set of Qs
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Old 04-19-2005, 11:50 AM
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Hero = 99.
Villain = KK.

Fancy check-raise on the river.
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Old 04-19-2005, 12:29 PM
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From a distribution standpoint, there are more combinations of AK than KK or JJ (now I'm assuming that we know Hero has AA). I think how villian plays AK on the river here is the motivating force for a bet vs. c/r.

If villain would call but not bet AK, bet the river. You lose out on a bet when villain has KK or JJ but gain a bet when villain has AK, which is more likely.

If villain would bet but not call AK, c/r the river. This is a great situation because you get 2 bets out of KK and JJ, and you get 1 bet as opposed to none out of AK.
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Old 04-19-2005, 01:10 PM
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Hero has QQ. Villain has AQ.
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