A Blind steal meets resistence

[McGahee]

I would raise the flop. Put yourself in villian's shoes. Do you EVER give your opponent credit for a made flush when 3 suited cards fall on the flop HU?

[McGahee]

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Raise the flop.

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You don't think a tight, straightforward player would dump a TT, JJ, KK to a flop raise with a monotone board?

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Folding to a single flop raise? No way. Assuming villian doesn't have a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], even the tighest, most passive players are not dumping HU unless a 4th [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] hits the board. Most of the time it won't.

[benkath1]

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If he's got the goods he bets

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define 'goods'. goods as in AA or goods as in K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Is he a solid player with knowledge of blind defense, or only bets when he has a hand?

Why not raise the flop? I think that's when you had the best hand. Raising the turn after not raising the flop I think is ok, but I like to get informantion about the hand on the cheaper street. I would have to call the river after I've come this far.

Ben

[Rambino]

I put him on AA. That's the only hand that people will always bet, even into a scary board. Villain knows he has trip aces, and that's all he cares about. He wouldn't have bet KK on the flop. AK is a possibility, but your villain doesn't sound like he would 3-bet AK.

UNLESS, of course, you have been stealing a lot, to the point where this guy thinks you are full of it. Then his range of hands is much broader...

[@bsolute_luck]

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I put him on AA. That's the only hand that people will always bet, even into a scary board. Villain knows he has trip aces, and that's all he cares about. He wouldn't have bet KK on the flop. AK is a possibility, but your villain doesn't sound like he would 3-bet AK.

UNLESS, of course, you have been stealing a lot, to the point where this guy thinks you are full of it. Then his range of hands is much broader...

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[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] that's a helluva handread there to nail him on 1 hand. To the OP: how confident are you in your tight read? some may think i'm tight, but i'm firing back with number of hands from BB to a possible blind steal.

flop: he probably has a pair of aces. raise. HU, i wouldn't think ANYONE would think you flopped 2nd best flush.

turn: he probably thinks you're bluffing, so fires back.
river: he still thinks you're bluffing most likely.

i think you have to be more aggressive somewhere. i like the call on the flop only because it sets up an appearance of a bluff attempt on the turn. i'd cap the river. i don't know if it's optimal or anything, but a fun way to play it.
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[McGahee]

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i think you have to be more aggressive somewhere. i like the call on the flop only because it sets up an appearance of a bluff attempt on the turn.

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Hmm, I might like that for a 10/20 game. But for .5/1 Party? A flop call and a turn raise certainly doesn't look like a bluff. A flop raise does.

[@bsolute_luck]

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i think you have to be more aggressive somewhere. i like the call on the flop only because it sets up an appearance of a bluff attempt on the turn.

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Hmm, I might like that for a 10/20 game. But for .5/1 Party? A flop call and a turn raise certainly doesn't look like a bluff. A flop raise does.

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well then i'm moving up [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] going from .25/.5 to 10/20 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

so we should rearrange to flop raise. call the turn and cap river...obviously for fun. the other way to play it i guess would be: raise the flop, call the 3-bet, raise again on the turn and call down if 3-bet for possible k[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

[adsman]

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If he's got the goods he bets

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define 'goods'. goods as in AA or goods as in K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Is he a solid player with knowledge of blind defense, or only bets when he has a hand?

Why not raise the flop? I think that's when you had the best hand. Raising the turn after not raising the flop I think is ok, but I like to get informantion about the hand on the cheaper street. I would have to call the river after I've come this far.

Ben

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"Goods" would be defined as, he will bet agressively with TPTK, 2 pair etc. He won't bet middle pair etc. He's not a rock but he's close to it. Very straight forward. If he doesn't have anything he folds as soon as you push back. That's why I called the flop. So he could have AA, he could have AK with the [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], but I think that the minimum that he's got would be a set. I have a few hundred hands on him, and he doesn't seem to like me, (God knows why...)

[Rosencrantz1]

Yeah, I think you have to call him down on the river. I don't see much value in raising what will no doubt be bet from him; it's a decent enough pot as-is. I think that, given how tight he is, you have to give him a better-than-average chance of having K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I say call the river and see what's what.

For what it's worth, I think he probably has a worse read on you here than you do on him. He probably has you on two-pair or trips, maybe a weaker flush than you have.