Two of my problems

[nh5150]

i cant understand why you say you blame SSH for you not raising enough pre flop. compared to other books ive read i would say it has taught me to be more agg all round. i raise more now pre flop than ever. folding as well though, on the flop if i dont see good reasons to carry on. as for the river i used to check/call a lot too. i find myself value betting now even when im not too sure. its surprising to me what some people are calling down with. i am by no means an expert on this, its my first reply on this forum [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] maybe you need to study SSH again.

[Fredrik]

I don't really blame SSH. I love the book. Reading selected chapters now after reading it twice (sadly, I got the book without having played much LHE). But if you'd comprise this book into one single sentence; I guess it would be 'never fold raised pots'.

Of course, there's much more to a raised pot than that, but if there is a point Miller tries to make, it's that players fold way too many raised pots just because of some random bet.

Of course, he is totally correct. I've folded my fair share of middle pocket pairs when one overcard hit the flop and hit my set on the turn.
But it also makes it very hard to fold AK on a scattered board even when there's no improvement on the river.

I know; play better post-flop and raise more pre-flop. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

As for the #2, well, it'll come.

Let me take a moment to thank everyone who took the time to reply. This thread was a 'Hi, my name is Fredrik and I have leaks' kind of thing. To deal with these problems I guess I had to publicity state them. Now when they're in the open, I can squash them. Sorry for making my problems yours.

I just got HOH (I like to play NL, but now it's two weeks of bonus whoring for me) and TOP, but I think I'm going to pick up POP as soon as possible. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for your time.

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Play some cheap NL SnGs.

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Learning NL really helped my ring game, too. It makes you realize just how valuable flopping a top pair or holding an overcard pair is compared to someone on a draw. You're the favorite, and by a clear enough margin that you want to bet all you can, whether the game is limit or NL.

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i know this is off-topic a tab, but i don't understand this advice. NL and Limit are way different and SnGs are different than ring games. i wouldn't suggest this to anyone learning micro-limit ring games ever.

i'm trying to understand the OP problems really. sure the value bet may be a problem, but 1) it is common 2) you'll learn 3) i wouldn't put it as a MAJOR leak unless you're taking bad hands too far, but then the leak isn't your river play, but earlier play.

as far as raising preflop, i don't know how many hands you have played or how long you have been playing, but just stick to the SSH tight requirements and learn to loosen up from there. don't get stuck thinking "oh i have to raise more because that's what i'm supposed to do with this hand or that".

learn to understand WHY you raise first in or based on table conditions to limp with suited connectors or not. since you've read SSH, i'd suggest Theory of Poker. that'll help with the WHY a lot, IMHO. what i've learned (contrary to NL SnGs) is how valuable suited connectors are.

That is the beauty of micro-limit: your suited connectors have value because so many people are playing so many bad hands and not paying attention. In NL, you don't have odds to have your draws come in.

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Play some cheap NL SnGs.

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Learning NL really helped my ring game, too.

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i know this is off-topic a tab, but i don't understand this advice.

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Because every hand in an NL SnG can be life or death, certain aspects of the game are magnified. In a limit game it can take much longer for some subtle advantages of proper play to manifest themselves. It helped me with my aggression, one of the OPs stated problems. Also, by playing NL, I came back to the ring games having learned to respect even more the importance of position. As a result I have cut my VIP in full ring games from UTG and UTG+1 by several percent. I used to be about 15 and 18 percent respectively in those seats (22-23 overall in $1/2) now I'm 11 and 15 -- and I may look to push it down even a bit further.