This is the end

[shawn_p]

Please try to follow this logic.

Card dealers are a part of the service industry.

Waiters, waitresses, doormen, valet, chauffeurs, pizza delivery men, bartenders, etc…… are all part of the service industry.

Each occupation requires approximately the same level of job skills, experience, intelligence, and competency.

Waiters, waitresses, doormen, valet, cab driver, pizza delivery men, bartenders, etc…… who are all part of the service industry receive a nominal wage and are encouraged to do and exceptional job through the custom of gratuities offered by patrons.

The same applies for card dealers.

There is a customary standard gratuity for those in the food service industry normally paid at a rate of 15%-20% of the total tab or check.

There is a customary standard gratuity for those in the “patron service” industry such as: doormen, valet, cab driver, bartenders, and I argue that card dealers fit into this category of the “service industry”. A dollar is an accepted and adequate gratuity for services rendered.

A doorman open the door to your hotel and offers you assistance with you luggage/bags. This action warrants a gratuity of the socially accepted norm of a dollar.

A valet parks your car for you and has it ready for you at the end of a show. This action warrants a gratuity of the socially accepted norm of a dollar.

A cab driver picks you up at the airport and takes you to your hotel. This action warrants a gratuity of the socially accepted norm of a dollar.

A bartender serves you a drink. This action warrants a gratuity of the socially accepted norm of a dollar.

A poker dealer deals you a winning hand. This action warrants a gratuity of the socially accepted norm of a dollar.

The frequency of gratuity is directly related to the quantity of gratuity.

The amount of gratuity is directly related quality of service based on: skill, accuracy, courtesy, friendliness, etc.

A card dealer happens to deal a “bad beat jackpot” hand and a patron wins a substantial amount of money. This certain card dealer who is a part of this sector of the “patron service” industry believes that he is entitled to more than his/her customary dollar gratuity, although his “customary gratuity” is extended based upon his skill, accuracy, and attitude while dealing cards.

No extra skill was involved in dealing this particular hand.

Waiters, waitresses, doormen, valet, cab drivers, pizza delivery men, bartenders, etc…… don’t have bad beat jackpots, yet they work equally as hard at a similar occupation with similar demands.1

Why should card dealers periodically benefit substantially from the luck of patrons who hit a bad beat and receive more than their fair share?
What substantial extra skill (which would merit substantially greater gratuity)_was involved when dealing that particular hand?

[prairieboy]

I read all the way down before I figured out that this isn't a "tip the dealer you cheap bastards" post.

Turns out it's a "Not tipping the dealer doesn't mean I'm a cheap bastard" post. Go figure.

[shawn_p]

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I read all the way down before I figured out that this isn't a "tip the dealer you cheap bastards" post.

Turns out it's a "Not tipping the dealer doesn't mean I'm a cheap bastard" post. Go figure.



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hmmmm

I still haven't heard any good reasons prefferably logical explainations for the excessive tipping of card dealers.

[prairieboy]

Ok, how's this: Why are you tipping people at all? You have already received the service that they provide for an agreed-upon price (dinner tab, rake, whatever) adding additional fees for already paid services is illogical.

EXCEPT, in the case of restaurants that you plan to eat in more than once. In these cases the tip is a down-payment towards not getting a sneezer the next time you eat there.

[sameoldsht]

AGAIN

[Photoc]

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I read all the way down before I figured out that this isn't a "tip the dealer you cheap bastards" post.

Turns out it's a "Not tipping the dealer doesn't mean I'm a cheap bastard" post. Go figure.



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hmmmm

I still haven't heard any good reasons prefferably logical explainations for the excessive tipping of card dealers.

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Thats because no one wants to keep replying to the same old worn out broken down threads that keep getting rehashed.

Do something usefull...go to the B&M section and vote on the "What size" poll. At least thats new and exciting.

[Derek in NYC]

Tipping is a social convention. The convention is to give a larger tip on an extraordinary pot like a BBJ. This is why you would be expected to give more than a dollar.

By the way, the convention for tipping cab drivers in NYC is not $1.00. If you are tipping cabbies $1.00 on airport rides, for instance, you are a cheap bastard.

That is all.

[stigmata]

Some rich dudes show up at a restaruant and order some foie gras and a magnum of Don Quixote and some cavier and the wild boar washed down with 3 bottles of the 1963 Chateaux fucktard and then cap it with a bottle of 1937 McGlenmeckeneckishauctoshan. The bill comes in at $128821134.22.

One lucky waiter hits the jackpot.

I'm not sure what the point of my story is, but I think there is one in here somewhere. Oh yeah.... Man buys lottery ticket. Man wins lottery. Man gives $1000 to shopkeeper in act of kindness.

[TripleH68]

I suggest you visit Europe. You will notice at better restaurants the food is more expensive. No tipping.

If you want your poker dealer to care a whole lot less about dealing quickly and efficiently, stop tipping.

[stickman]

Logic aside, because we are not all intellectual masterminds. How about tipping extra because it would be a classy thing to do?