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Old 04-18-2005, 01:55 AM
rwesty rwesty is offline
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Default Party 250k hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t3050)
UTG+1 (t1009)
MP1 (t17720)
MP2 (t3445)
MP3 (t3801)
CO (t6835)
Button (t1081)
SB (t3795)
Hero (t8207)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t450</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t250.

Flop: (t1000) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t800</font>, Hero calls t800.

Turn: (t2600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t2600</font>

Hero...?
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Old 04-18-2005, 02:24 AM
LethalRose LethalRose is offline
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Default Re: Party 250k hand

fold pf.

your only move on the flop is push or fold, in my opinion.
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Old 04-18-2005, 05:12 AM
rwesty rwesty is offline
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Default Re: Party 250k hand

Nobody sees a flop with this? Even when MP1 is raising 3 times per round? I think pushing on the flop would be the worst of three options. Am I wrong here?

The question was about the turn. What should be done here?
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Old 04-18-2005, 05:20 AM
Eihli Eihli is offline
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Default Re: Party 250k hand

I wouldn't fold pre, he's basicly min-raising so you're odds to call are good. I'd push the flop, if he's been raising a lot, he probably doesn't have anything so your fold equity is huge.
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:15 AM
Poisson7 Poisson7 is offline
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Default Re: Party 250k hand

Against an aggressive big stack, push the flop. Possibly push the turn as well...?
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Old 04-18-2005, 10:42 AM
Deelah Deelah is offline
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Default Re: Party 250k hand

Why not check-raise the flop, getting some value out of opponents crappy holding??

If you just push he will fold the bad hands and call you with his good holdings.
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Old 04-18-2005, 12:06 PM
DireWolf DireWolf is offline
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Default Re: Party 250k hand

If villan has been raising 3 times an orbit, and most have his raises have been about this size, i think its fine to see a flop. You should include that in your original post though.
I don't like open pushing, or check-raise pushing this flop. You are pushing about 7800, into a pot of 2600. I like calling the flop, check raise push any turn we improve on. That includes A, flush or OESD, which is about half the deck.

If we don't improve, we get to see what villan does again, He might shut down after trying a continuation bet on the flop, and check it down. If he bets full pot, i fold. stack sizes are going to be akward this hand, and we have plenty of chips left.
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