best baseball player ever?

[HC5831]

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(i.e. Babe Ruth is not really a candidate)


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lmao. Give me a break. If the babe played in todays game, he would have the same dedication as players do today. Same if Bonds went back to the 1930's; his game would be less. People play to their peers until the bar is raised.

Ruth was the best ever. No question. And he didn't have to use steroids like Bonds did.

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[andyfox]

Pretty hard for a guy who plays in 40 games a year to be as valuable as a guy who plays in 160. That's why they made Babe Ruth into an outfielder from a pitcher.

[Jack of Arcades]

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Not a single mention of a pitcher yet. I don't follow baseball, are they really that much less important than position players?

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No, it's just a lot harder to compare pitchers across eras, and pitchers to position players, so these discussions turn into the top position players.

[M2d]

bonds was a good outfielder with a weak arm for the first half of his career. the second half, he was a lazy, poor fielder with a weak arm who sometimes shows flashes of brilliance, but usually prefers to dog it.
mays was an awesome defender from the git go to the very end.

I'd be very interested to see how mays and bonds stack up against their contemporaries. the NL was very much a pitcher's league when mays was in his prime, so his absolute statistics may look lower than they should be. also, his power numbers may not look as impressive as they are (and they're damned impressive.

[M2d]

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Ted Williams was better than Joe DiMaggio.

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all around?

[Jack of Arcades]

Not in every aspect of the game, but in overall value.

I mean, Neifi Perez is a better defender than Adam Dunn. Who's better?

[jesusarenque]

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Ted Williams was better than Joe DiMaggio.

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all around?

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Yes.

[Alobar]

if the criterea is todays game, then any player who hasnt played in the last 10 years is automatically exempt, I dont care who it is. The human athlete is evolving so fast, the if you were to take mays or ruth or anyone else from back in the day and stick them into todays game, they wouldnt be superstars. This is more true for other sports than baseball (Which is the least atheltic of all the sports), but still true none theless

[istewart]

I think SI said it pretty well that in a few decades everyone will be on steroids and nobody will care.