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Old 04-12-2005, 04:37 AM
KeithF40 KeithF40 is offline
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Default Question About Favorable Flops

Im trying to figure out hands that I feel have at least a 50 percent chance of seeing a favorable flop. A favorable flop for me generally includes flopping
1. Royal Flush
2. Straight Flush
3. Full House using both cards in my hand in order to actually create the full house
4. Flush
5. Straight without having three cards to a flush on board
6. Set without having three cards to a flush on board
7. Trips
8. Two Pair using both cards in my hand to actually make the two pair and without having three cards to a flush on board
9. Overpair without the board being paired and without having three cards to a flush on board
10. Top Pair while holding either the first or second nut kicker without the board being paired and without there being three to a flush on board
11. Holding suited cards and flopping a flush draw
12. Flopping three to a suit where I hold only the ace to that suit in my hand
13. Flopping an open ended straight draw or double belly buster straight draw where im not drawing to dummy end of a straight

What hands would actually create favorable situations like this. Also it would be nice if someone could post the math involved in finding out these situations.
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:43 AM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default Re: Question About Favorable Flops

Why did you post this in at least three different forums? Let the serious probability folks answer it.
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Old 04-12-2005, 04:50 AM
Brainwalter Brainwalter is offline
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Default Re: Question About Favorable Flops

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3. Full House using both cards in my hand in order to actually create the full house

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As opposed to?

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Flopping three to a suit where I hold only the ace to that suit in my hand

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I'm assuming this means three of a suit on board and one in your hand.

Anyway, I'm going to go out on a limb and say AA, KK, QQ, JJ, and possibly AKs.
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:48 PM
KeithF40 KeithF40 is offline
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Default Re: Question About Favorable Flops

Yes correct. I dont want the board to be AAA and me hold KK as I dont find this a favorable flop. Also I dont want to the flop to come XsXsXs and he having the flush draw without holding the ace of that suit. I again dont find this a favorable flop because I either dont have the nuts in the first example or drawing to the nuts in the second example.
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:54 PM
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Yes correct. I dont want the board to be AAA and me hold KK as I dont find this a favorable flop.

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This is a monster flop for you.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:28 PM
KeithF40 KeithF40 is offline
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Default Re: Question About Favorable Flops

Not really. It is very possible someone has the A. Again especially at a loose table where people habitually call with any ace im not in good shape. Also I can only expect to get money out of other people with high pocket pairs and if that is the case I might just get all my money in preflop anyway especially if I have KK. This is easily a hand where I can lose alot of money or make a little money.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:33 PM
Greg J Greg J is offline
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Default Re: Question About Favorable Flops

No, it's a very good flop for you. Seriously.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:40 PM
JohnnyHumongous JohnnyHumongous is offline
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I really hope you're joking.
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:03 AM
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I really hope you're joking.

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lol
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: Question About Favorable Flops

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Yes correct. I dont want the board to be AAA and me hold KK as I dont find this a favorable flop.

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This is a monster flop for you.

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Winning jackpots is +EV
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