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Old 04-11-2005, 07:52 PM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

Empire $7500 guaranteed last night ($55), we're down to 14 out of 150. Pay out for 11th is $75, $2075 for first, so you know where I'm aiming.

Relevant stacks:
Hero: 12k
UTG limper: 11k
Button: 32k (chip leader)

Average is 9k, I have about the 4/5th biggest stack.

I am dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the BB. UTG and the button limp w/ 400/800 blinds.

Flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I bet out 1200 into the 2800 pot, both just call.

6400 pot. Turn is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I check, UTG bets 2200, Button calls, I call.

Pot is 10800. The river is the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

What is my action here? Do I play this carefully or do I try to get alot of chips here? I was confused as how to approach this river as I figured to have the best hand, but was somewhat scared of UTG. He could have a small pair.
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:20 PM
DVC Calif DVC Calif is offline
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Default Re: I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

I think your seeing monsters.

KK raises PF.

22/66 bets outs to your flop raise against the flush draw.

88 folds to your flop bet (besides you have an 8).

I make a value bet of t2800 and call/push and reraises.

If your afraid of quad ducks, you need to pay him off for playing this hand so wacky (and allowing him to see a cheap flop.)
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:23 PM
TheTimeIsUp TheTimeIsUp is offline
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Default Re: I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

I'd push here. If somebody else hit their flush, they are paying you off. As well as trips, and AK. The only question is how you extract chips, not if. If you fear a boat this late, that is extremely tight.
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Old 04-11-2005, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

I'd check that river to give them a chance to make a move on it, rather then PUSH and have them all fold and get nothing, plus this could wind up saving you from the rail. (very unlikely, but a factor to consider)

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Old 04-11-2005, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

How does it keep you from the rail? If one of the others pushes do you really not call? Bottom line: a boat is getting my entire stack in this spot.
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Old 04-11-2005, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

If it's checked through by a Vince with a low boat.

That's it, I said 'very unlikely'...

I've seen some real river whimps, so I am not completely stunned by much anymore...

Did I just make VINCE a new slang word for MORON? YES! Sorry! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old 04-12-2005, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

I'd make a small bet, looking for someone who played trips wacky or made two pair to make a relatively cheap call. Pushing practically forces everyone to fold, leaving the pot as-is. Checking doesn't seem very likely to induce bets here unless someone actually made a lower flush, in which case of course call. I agree with other posters: no real reason to fear the boat here.


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Old 04-12-2005, 01:25 AM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default Re: I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

Well the results are pretty interesting for this hand. I didn't know if I was being results oriented but I guess I was.

This sounds kinda dumb, but I was so excited to hit my flush I didn't see the lowly 2 had paired. So I though I had the nuts. I don't really know why, but I decided to C/R the river. UTG bet 1700, button called, I pushed, both called.

UTG flips over 66. But he didn't win.

The button called on EVERY street, even the river, with KK!

Bizarre, if the button played KK like he should have I wouldn't even have seen the flop.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

Online poker is rigged.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: I hit the nut flush with a paired board late in tourney

you've got to be willing to get all the chips in here. the only question is how to get the most when you're ahead.

i don't like checking. it looks like utg has some kind of made hand, maybe something like KQ. button looks like a draw, as do you. so i don't think that utg is going to bet out if you check to him, and if button does in fact have a flush, he'll raise your bet anyway.

i like a smallish bet of about 3k. the ideal situation is that utg calls with a made hand and then button pushes with a smaller flush. i think you're almost certain to get called in at least one spot with the small bet, where a bigger one might fold out two medium made hands.
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