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Old 04-06-2005, 12:58 PM
syphlix syphlix is offline
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Default overpair UTG early in tourney...

sorry for the post flood... but i'm going through a pretty bad streak and i'm trying to figure out if i'm starting to tilt here... i really fear that this was a total tilt move...

should i have folded to the reraise here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

BB (t1560)
Hero (t970)
UTG+1 (t935)
UTG+2 (t640)
MP1 (t195)
MP2 (t825)
MP3 (t505)
CO (t785)
Button (t960)
SB (t625)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t400</font>, Hero raises all in., BB calls t540.
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Old 04-06-2005, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: overpair UTG early in tourney...

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Old 04-06-2005, 01:56 PM
Patrick Duffy Patrick Duffy is offline
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Default Re: overpair UTG early in tourney...

that board is the big blind special...sure you have an overpair, but he could have pocket 2s, 34, 26, all of these normally crappy hands dominate you now... when he lead after the flop he was begging for calls, and you did him one better and put more chips in the pot. if he reraised you all-in instead of to T400, would you call? id probably fold this...
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Old 04-06-2005, 02:27 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: overpair UTG early in tourney...

I don't play TT that way on that flop. I certainly don't make your first raise to 150 and call after the villian reraises with most of but not all of his stack. Instead I fold.

Yugoslav
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Old 04-06-2005, 02:39 PM
syphlix syphlix is offline
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Default Re: overpair UTG early in tourney...

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I don't play TT that way on that flop. I certainly don't make your first raise to 150 and call after the villian reraises with most of but not all of his stack. Instead I fold.

Yugoslav

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what to do then?.. call the 30 then fold to a reraise?... or what if i call the 30... turn comes blank... he bets 50-100... ? then what?

i see that i hould def have folded after he reraised my raise... but i'm not sure of what i shoulda done after he bets 30...
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Old 04-06-2005, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: overpair UTG early in tourney...

I'd probably give it up here.

Most of the time that I get action in this spot (pocket tens, baby board, small blinds) it's because they've got me beat.

Disclaimer: I only recently moved to party sngs, previously playing most of my SNGs at stars.
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:40 PM
KyleOlson KyleOlson is offline
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Default Re: overpair UTG early in tourney...

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what to do then?.. call the 30 then fold to a reraise?... or what if i call the 30... turn comes blank... he bets 50-100... ? then what?

i see that i hould def have folded after he reraised my raise... but i'm not sure of what i shoulda done after he bets 30...

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Pretend the 30 didn't happen and do what you would have done if he had checked. 30 is a small bet and you can't let the small bet freeze you. Imagine if he's on a flush draw. If you freeze then his small bet has given him excellent odds.

When he reraises you must reevaluate, of course.
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: overpair UTG early in tourney...


I think your raise to 150 is fine. After you are reraised, the decision is much tougher. I would lean towards folding. When a player bets absurdly small, gets raised, yet still reraises you, It's often very bad news for a hand like TT here.
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