Big pot OOP with KK

[Siawyn]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($4.85)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($30.05)</font>
UTG ($40.90)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($12.60)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($20.65)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($37.75)</font>
CO ($7.05)
Button ($7.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, MP2 calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $2.25, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($10.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

BB checks and UTG+1 checks. What's your plan?

(edit: not really OOP I guess, I was thinking preflop)

[sawseech]

bb coldcalling then utg not being worried at all and calling freaks me out just enough to chk this

plus i'm definitely not best and have no fold equity and could face a chkraise i don't want to deal with

[Los Feliz Slim]

Definitely check and hope MP2 goes along with your plan to get a free card for your nut flush draw. A small bet and a couple calls also gives you the odds to keep playing.

[Siawyn]

How much heat can we stand from MP2?

Here's the interesting things about the hand to me:

***I raised big before the flop. Clearly I'm marked with a big hand.

***2 checks to me. This is not the kind of flop that someone would plan a check raise on unless they had flopped the flush (extremely unlikely), or perhaps had AK with the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] -- but I have the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] so that is impossible.

***if either BB or UTG+1 had flopped a set, I would be facing a large bet. They would have to be concerned about an AK with the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

So it boils down to really me vs MP2. What's the fold equity here looking like? I feel that checking here is just telling MP2 to take the pot -- how much can we call if he bets?

If I bet, how much are we looking for here? Half pot? Obviously if I get raised all-in, then I have to fold. But if I get called somewhere, then what if the turn is a blank? Now the pot is even bigger but my draw is now weaker with only one card to come. Any amount of betting + calls behind me starts to swell the pot to the point where I'm getting close to committed.

Sometimes I feel I play these hands too weak.

[AncientPC]

1) Bet standard sized bet, bluffing the A. It's possible they don't have the A or don't have a high enough [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] kicker to call to SD.

2) Overbet the pot, planning on taking it right down and there. Bluff protecting vs the flush draw. If someone calls, you have a disguised nut flush if it hits and hopefully your opponent will overplay his lower flush.