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Old 04-01-2005, 12:04 PM
xCEO xCEO is offline
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Default AKs against 3-bet on flop

UTG is 55/10/1.3 (61 hands)

What about my play?
Should I cap the flop? UTG is passive post-flop, should I consider to drop my hand on the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls $2 (All-In).

Turn: (9.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:08 PM
PokerProdigy PokerProdigy is offline
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Default Re: AKs against 3-bet on flop

I might cap the flop, but I would definitely NOT fold. Then I would just call him down if I did not improve. In other words, nice play.
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:09 PM
meep_42 meep_42 is offline
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Default Re: AKs against 3-bet on flop

I'm ok with this hand all the way through.
Looks like you're getting the worst of it, but if you're not, let him keep bluffing away.
His most likely hands are AT, A6s, and 66, and you have a couple outs against AT and a few more against A6, plus the BD flush.

With CO all-in, I don't see the point in capping the flop, as it only will serve to set up a turn c/r if you're behind (and for .5 extra BB, you see a showdown).

If he's behind here, he's get few outs and you want him to keep bluffing away. I think that 11:2.5 is probably enough for a calldown here, given you'll be ahead or pull ahead sometimes.

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Old 04-01-2005, 12:09 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: AKs against 3-bet on flop

1.3 isn't that passive postflop. its about neutral and you'd be crazy to fold this anywhere regardless.
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: AKs against 3-bet on flop

Thanks for your comments!
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:11 PM
Chris Dow Chris Dow is offline
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Default Re: AKs against 3-bet on flop

Cap the flop. If he leads the turn call down. Otherwise bet the turn and it looks like we have to call down if he crs (because the pot is going to lay such a heavy price).
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:33 PM
adamstewart adamstewart is offline
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Default Re: AKs against 3-bet on flop

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With CO all-in, I don't see the point in capping the flop, as it only will serve to set up a turn c/r if you're behind (and for .5 extra BB, you see a showdown).

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I agree.

When behind, we're setting ourselves up for a check-raise, or just slowing down a better hand.

When behind, villain will keep betting into us with a worse hand.


(It seems certain other posters prefer the over-aggro-chip-spewage style, though).
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:38 PM
Chris Dow Chris Dow is offline
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Default Re: AKs against 3-bet on flop

Yeah, I'll be serious here. I think there is a difference between the 2/4 and 3/6 games. I think that difference is substantial. I am currently logging hands at 2/4. Perhaps I shouldn't respond to 3/6 posts. I do not consider my play to be spewing at 2/4. The plays I am recommending are the way I would play it at 2/4. This was a 3/6 hand.
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:44 PM
adamstewart adamstewart is offline
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Default Re: AKs against 3-bet on flop

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Yeah, I'll be serious here. I think there is a difference between the 2/4 and 3/6 games. I think that difference is substantial. I am currently logging hands at 2/4. Perhaps I shouldn't respond to 3/6 posts. I do not consider my play to be spewing at 2/4. The plays I am recommending are the way I would play it at 2/4. This was a 3/6 hand.

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IMO, 2/4 is a more *passive* game, thus making your suggested line even more "spewage."

I'm not trying to get on your case here, just stating the way I see it.


Adam
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