77, just calling

cockandbull · #1 03-31-2005, 12:11 PM

The converter messed up a little, full game/full table.

I think is messed up all the postflop play. Has anyone got a better plan? i was totally lost, i was thinking about c/r a flop bet from mp2 but when mp3 called i figured i'd take a turn and see what happens. again i check to see the action and the turn gets checked through. with the board as it is i figure i'm good a certain percentage of the time on the river and hope that the MP's are playing the board.

UTG+1 114 hands at 15.3/7.6/1.2
MP1 65 hands at 37.5/14/0.85
MP2 50 hands at 33.3/29.4/9.33
MP3 30 hands at 27.6/0/0.85

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, MP1 3-bets, MP2 caps, MP3 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (20.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (12.66 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks.

River: (12.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 16.

66 B

Fat Nicky · #2 03-31-2005, 12:31 PM

raise the flop anyway, you improve your chances of winning if UTG+1 and MP1 fold. Also, if raised on the turn, it's easier for you to let the hand go.

MoreWineII · #3 03-31-2005, 12:34 PM

i agree with nicky. the pot's already "big" on the flop, invest an extra bet if it might increase your chance of winning the thing.

Osric · #4 03-31-2005, 01:04 PM

Am I the only won who folds this pre-flop? Capped before the bet even reaches me? I gotta put someone on something higher than middle pair.

Kaz The Original · #5 03-31-2005, 01:09 PM

I think you're getting 16:3 here, which is 5:1, which is enough if your opponents flash AA, KK, and QQ.

QTip · #6 03-31-2005, 01:11 PM

Osric:

This one was culture shock to me as well the first time I saw it. Fact is your implied odds here in this gigantic multiway pot are amazingly great. It's a good call. I'll see if I can find some links for you to the post where I didn't get it either.

QTip · #7 03-31-2005, 01:11 PM

well said.

cockandbull · #8 03-31-2005, 01:52 PM

thinking about this, i agree that raising the flop is probably the correct play, however is anyone going anywhere for 2 bets with this size pot on the flop. i have the correct odds to draw for my full house and if three bet this sucks.

again thinking outloud would c/r a late bet on the turn be a better play should it come than raising the turn. this way i know out overs and maybe an overpair.

harry

QTip · #9 03-31-2005, 01:59 PM

I like a flop raise too.

Fat Nicky · #10 03-31-2005, 02:49 PM

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again thinking outloud would c/r a late bet on the turn be a better play should it come than raising the turn. this way i know out overs and maybe an overpair.

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let's say you call the flop, chances are, the players that checked will call for 1 bet to see the turn. Now, a bet comes from one of the players that checked the flop. You allowed them to hit something on the turn without giving them a better chance to fold on the flop for 2 bets because you didn't raise.