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Old 03-29-2005, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 20-40: Proceeding Cautiously With AKs

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On a table filled with the whiniest regulars I've ever met

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Worse than the Mirage? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 03-29-2005, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 20-40: Proceeding Cautiously With AKs

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On a table filled with the whiniest regulars I've ever met

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Worse than the Mirage? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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I played with by far the most whiniest group of locals at the Mirage last week; all the bitching fueled by Cindy and her fiance. No way any tourist would sit through that trauma. Don't they get it? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:28 PM
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After I bet the river, both opponents folded fairly quickly.

It was the second very large pot I won that day where I bet the river and didn't get called by 2 or more players still in the hand.
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 20-40: Proceeding Cautiously With AKs

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But any particular reason you didn't raise the flop? Were you going to raise the turn unimproved?


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Unlike most players, I often find it easier to read opponents when I'm not the one doing all the betting and raising. This is particularly true in multi-way pots.

I hadn't decided what I was going to do on the turn when I called the flop. I was waiting to see the other two players reactions.
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 20-40: Proceeding Cautiously With AKs

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...but I disagree with you that calling three cold masks his hand. For many players, this telegraphs AK.


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You may be right. I've only cold-called three bets once before and I had AKo on the button that time.
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:32 PM
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I like your line. I really like your cold call preflop, but would you do the same thing with KK or AA? Do you ditch AQs?

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AA or KK depends on how I'm feeling.

AQs is a fold. I usually fold it for one raise.
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:33 PM
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On a table filled with the whiniest regulars I've ever met

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Worse than the Mirage? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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Much, much worse than anything I've experienced at the Mirage.
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Old 03-30-2005, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 20-40: Proceeding Cautiously With AKs

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Unlike most players, I often find it easier to read opponents when I'm not the one doing all the betting and raising. This is particularly true in multi-way pots.


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I agree.

Best read: when no one raises

Next best read: When someone far removed from my seat in either direction raises

Next: When someone "close to me" raises

Last: When I raise (particularly in games where checking to the raiser is a common occurrence).
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Old 04-01-2005, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 20-40: Proceeding Cautiously With AKs

Luke I really wouldn't recommend raising the turn here unimproved because if you look back at the preflop action, what hands would fold to a raise here if say a 2d hits the turn??

JJ reraises
TT reraises
AQ won't fold
AJ probably won't fold
QQ won't fold
AT may not fold

KQ won't fold.

This type of flop and size of pot won't rarely get any of these hands to fold, I think its better to just call and see the river for 1 bet, because chances are there may be real hands out there with that type of preflop action.

I just want to know why you would recommend raising this turn unimproved to blow out those other hands behind you??
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