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Old 03-29-2005, 03:57 PM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9.66 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Button folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.33 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (12.33 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.33 BB
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Old 03-29-2005, 04:43 PM
Barry Barry is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 PP Hand

I don't really like your limp in this game from MP1.

The flop and turn are OK.

On the river, you are closing the action, it's a decent size pot, but you have a bettor (who 3-bet the flop) and a caller. Do you think that your TP no kicker can beat both of them even 7% of the time?
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Old 03-29-2005, 04:45 PM
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yea i think the overcall is bad.
-James
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Old 03-29-2005, 05:28 PM
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Unless both of your opponents are both complete morons, I think you can fold the river.
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:03 PM
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I would like to see a check raise on the turn as you picked up more outs with the new flush draw and you could potentially take it down right there. Follow through on the river with a bet and fold to a raise. This river allows for another semi-bluff. Hope this helps. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:09 PM
GreywolfNYC GreywolfNYC is offline
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I would like to see a check raise on the turn as you picked up more outs with the new flush draw and you could potentially take it down right there. Follow through on the river with a bet and fold to a raise. This river allows for another semi-bluff. Hope this helps. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Help him do what? Lose more money? This hand is a classic example of going too far with a very, very weak hand. And out of position too I might add. Since it wasn't folded before the flop (the better choice), its a definite fold on the river.
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:14 PM
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I like the turn CR better than calling down. I think folding on the turn is your best play. After 3bets on the flop you have to think at best your outkicked.

Turn CR gives you a chance to win the hand, calling down doesn't. Either way you didn't let go when you should have known your behind.
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:17 PM
GreywolfNYC GreywolfNYC is offline
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I like the turn CR better than calling down. I think folding on the turn is your best play. After 3bets on the flop you have to think at best your outkicked.

Turn CR gives you a chance to win the hand, calling down doesn't. Either way you didn't let go when you should have known your behind.

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Except that MP2, who has probably flopped a set, is going to three-bet you in a nanosecond.
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:19 PM
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I think folding on the turn is your best play.

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Folding the turn is pretty bad. I'd fold the river.
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:20 PM
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Anyone fold to the first flop bet? It's a bit read dependent but what are you hoping the bettor has? Any T prob has you outkicked and the guy after you is either drawing very live or has you beat most likely.

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