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#11
03-29-2005, 02:06 AM
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Re: How would you play this one?
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raise preflop, given the limp you call the 3bet easy [/ QUOTE ] Ok, I've seen this in a few responses (along with "never limp in MP"). What is the play if you have 22? If its different, where is the line drawn? Is limping OK if you see the 4 left to act behind you are all quite loose, and not likely to fold to a raise? (at least one of them was not likely to fold in this case) 
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#12
03-29-2005, 12:58 PM
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Re: How would you play this one?
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BB is reasonably tight and usually quite passive. I think I have seen him raise once or twice PF through 100 hands. CO is a TAGPreflop: Hero is MP3 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls. [/ QUOTE ] Given the reads, the TAG raise causes a little concern, but when the rock/mouse 3-bets this pot I am gonna fold, getting 5:1 with a possible cap behind me. Because it seems you either end up with a set (rare) or a marginal hand in a large pot making you search for reasons to call (common).
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#17
03-29-2005, 01:26 PM
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Re: How would you play this one?
I'm still working on these kinds of preflop situations, so maybe this is totally out of line, but I'm not entirely sure that you should limp. You've seen CO try some steals, so w. you as the only limper, it seems like he'd try it here w. a decent hand. And w. that many folds to you, your hand has a better chance of being best at this moment. So maybe the thing to do is raise instead of limping.
I fold the river. Three overcards to my pocket pair and a passive player betting every street is enough to convince me. I know it's a big pot, but I still don't feel like I'm good enough times to warrant the call.
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#18
03-29-2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: How would you play this one?
raise PF.
call the 3-bet. flop call is really CO dependent. i don't think a flop fold is a bad option. your bd straight is a bit dubious. do you really want an 8/9 to come? it might be .5 to 1 out and it conflicts with your set outs (e.g. turn 8, river 6). turn.. hmmm.. if you plan on calling a river bet, i'm wondering if a raise is best here. i think you gave yourself too many outs again. its not HU, so you are not necessarily dealing with AK or QQ+ (hands that don't conflict with your outs). i'd probably just call and fold the river.
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#19
03-29-2005, 02:40 PM
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Re: How would you play this one?
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[ QUOTE ] raise preflop, given the limp you call the 3bet easy [/ QUOTE ] Ok, I've seen this in a few responses (along with "never limp in MP"). What is the play if you have 22? If its different, where is the line drawn? Is limping OK if you see the 4 left to act behind you are all quite loose, and not likely to fold to a raise? (at least one of them was not likely to fold in this case) [/ QUOTE ] Thanks, I think I have a much better idea of how to play in this situation overall now. I am still curious about the question I have quoted above there.
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#20
03-29-2005, 02:41 PM
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Re: How would you play this one?
I've seen several of you post that you raise this PF. SSH does not have that in either tight or loose games. The farthest they go down is 88, and that's in late position.
What reasoning are you guys using to raise this hand PF? Has this hand been good to you all? Also, why not fold when it comes back two bets to you? Thanks for any help.
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