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Old 03-23-2005, 12:27 PM
95Aero 95Aero is offline
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Default Re: Identify a downswing

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(paying off turn c/r, that did not need paying off).

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If I have AK and flop a king... and someone C/Rs me, is that a given call? I can't imagine folding that right? (If it's not a 3-flush or other extreme stuff on the table?)
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Old 03-23-2005, 12:34 PM
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(paying off turn c/r, that did not need paying off).

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If I have AK and flop a king... and someone C/Rs me, is that a given call? I can't imagine folding that right? (If it's not a 3-flush or other extreme stuff on the table?)

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Not being a smart ass, but it depends. Starting a little bit at 2/4, then more at 3/6 and 5/10, I have seen what I consider an inordinant amount of c/r bluffs/semi-bluffs on the turn.

In the situation that you describe a possible line would be to 3-bet, and then consider checking behind on the river.

But that is why I am having trouble, so much of it is player dependent.
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Old 03-23-2005, 12:35 PM
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Great, thanks for that. I have only played about 50K hands over all now (went up to 3/6 for a while, but my downswing forced me back to 2/4 where it has continued)... I will look at the W$SD figures when I get home as I haven't learned how to interpret them before, thanks for this info!
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Old 03-23-2005, 12:37 PM
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Yes, my character judging skills have suffered lately as I see myself folding to C/R when I have a strong pair simply to see someone else taking the final pot with less... then I have that in the back of my mind next time along and I respond with aggression simply to find out I was beat all along [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] But that is the beauty of the game I supposed... if it was too easy it wouldn't be as profitable when u become good.
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Old 03-23-2005, 04:33 PM
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I would almost prefer being on a big downswing, very frustrating trading dollars back and forth for a week.



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No you wouldn't. Believe me. I am having a very very very shitty week, and I would give anything to be trading dollars

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I agree. I'm in the middle of a 200 BB downswing at 3/6. I'd MUCH rather be breakeven.

I was interested in determining what made rushes so profitable, and what made downswings so costly, so I did an study of three periods: one where I had a nice rush, one where I had an average profit and one where I had a massive downswing. The results were interesting. They're too long to post here, but you can read it on my blog (check my profile for link).
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Old 03-23-2005, 07:23 PM
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I'm not a great player but I was beating .50/1 for almost 3BB/100 the last 15k hands before moving to 1/2.

At 1/2 I went up and down countless times, went on a 175BB downswing which left me just over 200BB's down. After a few weeks of play I was still around 50BB's down then went on yet another slow slide and am back to being down 200BB's with 30k hands.

So I deposited at Party for the 20% reload bonus and went back to .50/1 to work out some issues, and am back to winning. Once I release the bonus I'll head back to 1/2 or take a few shots at 2/4. "Trading dollars" as you put it gets old really fast. Maybe a change of venue would help you too? Drop down a level, relax and play the way you should.
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Old 03-23-2005, 11:58 PM
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My downstreak continued today it seems, played 1400 hands with the result minus 41BB... I see what you mean about the WSD% and W$SD.. it seems as though the percentages are OK, but the W$SD is below 50...

Please comment these figures if possible:
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Thanks!
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Old 03-24-2005, 02:09 AM
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dude you're only down 44 BB.. whats the big deal?
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:51 AM
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It's not a 41BB over all downswing, closer to 200 now and I need to identify if I'm making some costly errors or if it's just bad luck
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Old 03-25-2005, 06:39 AM
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You need a LOT more hands
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