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Old 03-24-2005, 04:09 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: Put all three of my opponents and me on hands...

JT does not have AK here.

I'm going with QQ/KK for Hero (I don't think you would fold AJ here).
JT for passive.
A middle-strong Ace for weak-tight (AJ probably).

The decent player is the hardest to put on a hand imo. I wonder if he would coldcall you with KQ[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and if he wouldn't raise you on the flop with AQ. Anyway, I'm going with AQ.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:10 AM
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Default Re: Put all three of my opponents and me on hands...

yo MILES!
get off my nuts and pick your own hands [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:13 AM
SCfuji SCfuji is offline
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what about decent mungpo? you gotta have all the players' hands bro!
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: Put all three of my opponents and me on hands...

Your right, betting into this board is dumb. KK/QQ seems more like what you would have.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: Put all three of my opponents and me on hands...

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did decent player fold or call on the river?

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We didn't even get to his turn action yet. Take your time when reading it people!
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:16 AM
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Your right, betting into this board is dumb. KK/QQ seems more like what you would have.

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Why, what is your reasoning?

Answer me this, how often (the odds) is someone going to hold an Ace when you have 4 players to an Ace high flop? The answer is our there goggle it.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:19 AM
SCfuji SCfuji is offline
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you aren't NOT going lead this flop unless party mucked one of your hole cards. the flop bet gave you all the information you needed to make the wise fold on the turn when the passive bet the turn and the weak tight called after calling your flop bet. i dont see you overcalling with a hand any worse than AK here.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:20 AM
mungpo mungpo is offline
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Forgot all about the decent player.

Decent: 88 or 99.

I suck at these reads.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: Put all three of my opponents and me on hands...

alright i'll take a shot at it
preflop:
you:AA-TT, AKs,o AQs,AQo, maybe AJ and 99 ..

button: well there isn't much you should be cold-calling w/ vs. a solid players UTG raise, w/ nobody else in the pot, I doubt he's getting tricky with AA-QQ, he might be passive w/JJ .. but my best idea so far is AQs, AJs, KQs maybe ATs

the blinds have a pretty broad range so I'll revisit after more info postflop


Flop: pretty typical for passive/weak players to check to the raiser even with strong hands .. your bet doesn't really narrow your hand down, given the range of hands I think you raise pf you are prob a fav to have pairaces,good kicker

the good player calls, so he has a piece of the flop, I think he'll likely call with the flush draw to encourage the blinds to come along, and doesn't have the A, so I'll say he's on KQ clubs, he may also be planning a raise on the turn or river with a big hand like AQclubs

when the passive player bets out, the weakest he is A7, but i think JT or a set(could be 77,88,99) seem more likely he has a strong hand here

weak tight could be on the flushdraw, but prob has a weak made hand/or is scared of the flushdraws, moderate A, to something like 98notdiamonds

you: you don't have clubs or AA, if you believe SB is only betting a set or better you fold every hand you woulda raised PF as you are drawing to 0-2outs

well here goes

you: AK(not [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]),AQ(not [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]), KK,QQ
button: KQs, QJs AQs
SB: JT, 77,88,99, A7
BB: Ax 98

in order of relative likeliness
I'm pretty sure something is off with that
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Old 03-24-2005, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: Put all three of my opponents and me on hands...

i change my read on joe's hand back to AK [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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