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Old 03-23-2005, 12:11 PM
mr magoo mr magoo is offline
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Default Should I call this one down?

or even raise on the turn? No reads on villian...

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (11.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (11.66 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

River: (13.66 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.66 BB
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Old 03-23-2005, 12:12 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: Should I call this one down?

i would call down as well. if you want to raise the turn, you need to be able to fold to a 3-bet.
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Old 03-23-2005, 12:25 PM
Stefan Prodan Stefan Prodan is offline
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Default Re: Should I call this one down?

I'm pretty sure he didn't hit a flush. Most people don't know enough to raise a flop with a strong draw like a four-flush, and assuming he has second pair or better, then he must have a non-spade in his hand. I would call down expecting to see either AQ, QJ, or KQ most of the time.
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Old 03-23-2005, 12:48 PM
jb9 jb9 is offline
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Default Re: Should I call this one down?

Yes -- call it down. He could have a set, but he could also have AQ or AJ or possibly even KK. I think the flop 3 bet makes the flush less likely.

I wouldn't raise the turn as he could well have JJ or QQ.
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Old 03-23-2005, 01:33 PM
Fo10 Fo10 is offline
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Default Re: Should I call this one down?

I'm thinking about raising the river with the 3's pairing. No cap on pre flop says no QQ, maybe JJ, but I think it's two pair more than enough to make it profitable.
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Old 03-23-2005, 01:37 PM
lmbree lmbree is offline
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Default Re: Should I call this one down?

The flop cap turn lead put me into check call mode. I think you played this well. I would have the river raise thought, but not go through with it.
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Old 03-23-2005, 01:42 PM
nolanfan34 nolanfan34 is offline
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Default Re: Should I call this one down?

Isn't it possible the villain would play KK or AQ the same way?

I'm certainly getting to showdown here, and I think you could raise the turn, and call-down a 3-bet IMO.
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