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Old 03-22-2005, 11:25 AM
Turning Stone Pro Turning Stone Pro is offline
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Default Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

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Old 03-22-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

What you'll always get from me is honesty. Unlike some posters (and you know who you are and I'm starting to know who you are as well), I am humble enough to acknowledge when I'm having a problem and seek out advice.

My biggest mistake was no doubt diving right into 4-tabling 8 hours a day after 6 straight years of playing live. FYI- I'm doing much better since I last posted on this. But if you think my learning curve at 4-tabling from a computer somehow affects my understanding of the game or that such a faulty understanding is what accidently provided me with the very good living I have made for 6 years straight, you are badly mistaken.

I rarely discuss win rates, but did so here because I thought it was important to receive genuine help. One thing's for sure. If I ever do post such numbers they will be real and accurate. I've sifted through tons of posts on this forum and I gaurantee the same can't be said for everyone (again, you know who you are).
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Old 03-22-2005, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

It's close between a threebet and a call on the river. JT can be ruled out--would stox call that on the flop needing runner-runner headsup?

Me thinks stox has either a king or a queen. So it's a close call.
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Old 03-22-2005, 11:41 AM
Lestat Lestat is offline
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<font color="red"> I'll invite him to also come forward and cite any times where he has successfully bluffed me out of a pot like this vs. how many times I've called him down. </font>

I think he'd have to be pretty convinced that you're broke first.
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Old 03-22-2005, 11:46 AM
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I, for one, am very glad you've started posting here.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: i like lestats thinking here

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james seems like a more conservative player

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This is most definately not true.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

I figured I'd chime in with an opinion, I finally read the whole thread.
I think that most people are approaching the hand as a random 100-200 game online vs the typical lineup on UB or Pokerstars. But this hand isn't against Piejay or TheCount or Rabscuttle. I think that James and Stox have a history of playing somewhat straightforward against each other. Note that straightforward doens't mean that Stox isn't checkraising that perfect K on the river, or that he wont' checkraise the turn with 77. I can't stress enough that when I say straightforward I don't mean "weak" or "predictable" or "conservative". I mean that they expect each other to play well, and they aren't going to make plays against each other that only work when your opponent plays badly.
Anyway, I don't like the turn check. The pot is big and you have AK so often that you will get called down by a pocket pair. If you get checkraised on the turn I'm not real happy, I do not 3 bet. I just call the guy down. They just fold too much when you 3 bet them for it to be worth it. I would call the river checkraise, but I'd expect to lose.
If Stox did have a Q, I don't really like the way he played the hand.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

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There is no chance of Stox is paying off a river three bet with a king. Three betting the river would be pretty bad.

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Steve, however, he might pay off with 99 or TT.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:08 PM
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I, for one, am very glad you've started posting here.

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I am, too. Also, you should check out the heads up and short handed (HUSH) forum.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

I had more than just a Q.

James played the hand great. And he thought hard about folding the river.

I'll be back in a bit to post my thoughts...still wading throught the thread.
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