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Old 03-21-2005, 12:46 PM
Sal Allegra Sal Allegra is offline
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Default Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Question

Poker Stars 350K Guaranteed, I just got into the money. My first hand after the break I was dealt 55 UTG, blinds 1500-3000, my stack was approx. 20,000, I move all in, get called by 99 on the button, and I hit the rail.

Did I make this move too soon? I don't think I'll ever push 22-66 under the gun with 7.5x's bb - 10x's bb, unless I'm less than 5x's the BB. Thanks.
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Question

I think I'd fold here. You have a small stack but can still wait for a better oppurtunity than a hand that can be an 80/20 dog UTG.
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:36 PM
Sal Allegra Sal Allegra is offline
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Default Re: Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Question

Yeah, I felt sick after that 99 called me.
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:39 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Question

i'd push there. if you fold through your blinds, you'll be down to 15k and then there will be a lot of pressure to push in the next orbit. the antes make stealing more appealing, and since you're just into the money, it's not a bad time at all to take a 55/45 flip with some dead money out there.

also, for those who don't know, stars is 9-handed, so it's like utg+1 at party.
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:57 PM
Sal Allegra Sal Allegra is offline
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Default Re: Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Question

good point with the utg + 1, and yeah, I usually like to move with any 2 big cards, or pair in those situations, i just didn't like the UTG part, thanks schwza
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Old 03-21-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Question

Whether it's UTG on Stars or UTG+1 on Party, you will still have 8 to act behind you. So I don't know that this matters here.

I think the push is good. I don't think waiting until 5x bb to push this hand is correct. If you then double up, you'd be at 10x bb and find yourself in push/fold mode all over again.

If you push now and double up, you are ~20x bb and have some maneuverability.

Pulp
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Old 03-21-2005, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Question

with the antes you did the right thing.
99 actually has a tough decision unless he has a huge or small stack.
also were you 9 handed? it is close then. If any less than 9 it is still an easy push.
You are going to lose over 25% of your stack in the next two hands and lose just about all folding equity thereafter on your pushes.
I push with a lot of hands in your position.
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Old 03-21-2005, 03:00 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Question

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Whether it's UTG on Stars or UTG+1 on Party, you will still have 8 to act behind you. So I don't know that this matters here.

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i was just pointing this out for party players who might see utg and assume there 9 to act.
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Old 03-21-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Quest

Easy push with 6.5BB and about to hit the blinds. FWIW I'm pushing alot of hands worse than that here....
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Old 03-21-2005, 03:23 PM
Sal Allegra Sal Allegra is offline
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Default Re: Finished IN THE MONEY on Stars 350K guaranteed, help! 55 UTG Quest

I feel better about it now, I also didn't think about the blinds about to hit me right then and there. This thread has been helpful
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