600NL : JJ vs KK

The.Filth · #1 03-17-2005, 08:30 PM

could this hand have been played any differently? i thought he had AQ of spades or something.. when he called preflop should i have been more cautious?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) converter

UTG ($935.65)
MP ($586.05)
Button ($552)
SB ($1634.4)
Hero ($435)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $6, 1 fold, Button raises to $20, SB (poster) calls $17, Hero raises to $79, UTG folds, Button calls $65, SB calls $65.

Flop: ($261) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $200, Button calls $200, SB folds.

Turn: ($661) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Button calls $150.

River: ($811) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $811

Results in white below: 
Button has Ks Kd (two pair, kings and sevens).
Hero has Jd Jc (two pair, jacks and sevens).
Outcome: Button wins $811.

AZK · #2 03-17-2005, 09:35 PM

I normally don't reraise with JJ....

Check-raise the flop, if he keeps coming you are done.

partygirluk · #3 03-17-2005, 10:00 PM

Too tired to reply now but you should consider stepping down in limits are you made some pretty basic mistakes in this one.

tbach24 · #4 03-17-2005, 11:08 PM

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Hero raises to $79

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Why??? JJ is not a hand to be re-raising out of the blinds. I'm on the fence about raising JJ out of the blinds anyways. It's only purpose is building the pot and when you get action on the flop, you are likely behind.

RainFall · #5 03-18-2005, 07:11 AM

Is this correct? I like to repop here. At least in 6 max a button raise means nothing and the UTG Limp doesn't mean that much either.

It could be a leak in my game.

kagame · #6 03-18-2005, 07:19 AM

sorry nm, yeah why are there no river bets on your posts?

integrate · #7 03-19-2005, 06:44 PM

ditto..no rereasing with JJ. I personally hate this damn hand...but that's just personal, heh.

FoxwoodsFiend · #8 03-19-2005, 06:47 PM

Are you serious about not reraising with jacks? The button put in a raise which could mean anything. Unless you know that the button never puts in a marginal raise in that spot you should raise and try to take it down. Jacks can get you in a lot of trouble but that doesn't mean you should only be playing them for a set or check-calling all the way down if the flop comes unders. That's just leaving money on the table, especially 6-handed.

The.Filth · #9 03-20-2005, 07:23 AM

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Too tired to reply now but you should consider stepping down in limits are you made some pretty basic mistakes in this one.

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um.. i'm a consistent winner in 600nl and a winner in 1000nl.. please tell me what basic mistakes i made playing this shorthanded game..

i don't think reraising with JJ preflop was a mistake shorthanded..

Wayfare · #10 03-20-2005, 01:00 PM

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Are you serious about not reraising with jacks? The button put in a raise which could mean anything. Unless you know that the button never puts in a marginal raise in that spot you should raise and try to take it down. Jacks can get you in a lot of trouble but that doesn't mean you should only be playing them for a set or check-calling all the way down if the flop comes unders. That's just leaving money on the table, especially 6-handed.

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Did you ever consider calling the raise and check/raising a good flop? Or simply leading the flop?

Just because you do not reraise preflop doesn't mean you have to check call down to the river.