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Old 03-17-2005, 11:25 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: Protecting my hand - flopped a straight

You wan't advice? Check/fold the river. I'm all about results.

Honestly what do you wan't us to say here? Oh yeah, 3-bet the river in a heartbeat and then you get a ni han.

Brad
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: Protecting my hand - flopped a straight

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You wan't advice? Check/fold the river.

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Old 03-18-2005, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: Protecting my hand - flopped a straight

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You wan't advice? Check/fold the river. I'm all about results.

Honestly what do you wan't us to say here? Oh yeah, 3-bet the river in a heartbeat and then you get a ni han.

Brad

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exactly, remember protection is for marginal to moderately strong hands, ones that have a good chunk of equity but also are fairly easily drawn out on .. a flopped straight really only in trouble with 2pair, sets, and 4flushes, well none of those hands are going anywhere but you are a 2/1 favorite or better vs them .. if they get there they win, if they don't you do .. but thats the worst case, often you'll get plenty of action from weaker hands that don't have the drawout capability

protection is for hands like overpairs, or bottom2pair, or TPMK .. where you need to worry about weak draws beating you
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Old 03-18-2005, 03:10 AM
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Default Re: Protecting my hand - flopped a straight

When the T lands on the river and you get raised, think about this:

Has anyone, throughout the entire hand, shown any kind of strength that would have indicated two pair?

Therefore, you must raise this river, and call if he caps.

Other than that, you played it perfectly (though I'm not sure of the PF call). If they check to you, you protect your hand most by betting, because otherwise you're giving them infinite odds to draw to miracle hands.

--Dave.
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