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03-17-2005, 02:56 AM
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Re: overcall?
overcall
1. (v) Call a bet after one or more others have already called. For example, Jim bets, and Sue calls. If you also call, you are overcalling. 2. At the showdown, declare a hand as being better than it is, for which some cardrooms impose a penalty, that the player may lose claim to the pot; that is, the verbal announcement takes precedence over the actual cards. The reason for the rule is that one of the tactics of an angle shooter is to miscall a hand hoping that the other player will inadvertently throw away the winning hand. If the loser then sees that the hand did not really have, for example, a flush, but only four hearts and a diamond, the angler then says, "Oh, sorry; I overlooked my hand. Thought I had a flush." 3. (n) The act of so calling (definition 1). "Wouldn't you know that when I was bluffing, not only did Curly call me, but I got two overcalls!" From here. 
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#5
03-17-2005, 05:10 AM
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Re: overcall?
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AFAIK no, that's just limping in. Overcalling refers to when someone raises. [/ QUOTE ] And 'raises' here includes 'raising' from 0 to 1 bet - this isn't done preflop though. The principle of overcalls is the you need a better hand to overcall than to be the first caller. Because now you need to beat the bettor and the first caller (who cannot be bluffing).
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03-17-2005, 05:34 AM
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Re: overcall?
I feel retarded as h3ll, but what is AFAIK?
[ QUOTE ] AFAIK no, that's just limping in. Overcalling refers to when someone raises. [/ QUOTE ]
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#8
03-17-2005, 06:12 AM
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Re: overcall?
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Is calling preflop after others have called considered overcalling(assuming there's no raise, because then that would be coldcalling I guess)? [/ QUOTE ] Sometimes that's called "Over-limping" but it's not ALL that common. Also, calling two/three/four bets preflop AFTER others have called ahead of you is sometimes referred to as overcalling as well.
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#9
03-17-2005, 08:50 AM
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Re: overcall?
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[ QUOTE ] AFAIK no, that's just limping in. Overcalling refers to when someone raises. [/ QUOTE ] And 'raises' here includes 'raising' from 0 to 1 bet - this isn't done preflop though. The principle of overcalls is the you need a better hand to overcall than to be the first caller. Because now you need to beat the bettor and the first caller (who cannot be bluffing). [/ QUOTE ] just a quick addition to Thinquick... generally... when you have a bet to you with one (or more) opponents to follow you would go for overcalls when you are especially strong, thus call, hoping to make more by the multiple overcalls than a raise (which presumably would knock everyone out). whereas, when you are not as strong you actually want to raise the initial bet, hoping to knock out the other callers behind you. so you are paradoxically calling when strong and raising when weaker. obviously if you are playing against passive calling stations, simply raise when you are strong. cheers, the Real Macoy
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