Too weak tight with TPTK?

fishmeister1 · #1 03-16-2005, 09:48 PM

Is this a good or bad fold? How should I play this flop? No reads on the player.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB

LImitPlayer · #2 03-16-2005, 10:11 PM

bad fold

Redeye · #3 03-16-2005, 10:20 PM

ick...terrible fold. Its HU, this guy could be easily doing this w/ AK, maybe TT which you beat. You've got 5 outs against QQ and KK. Call it down.

Hoi Polloi · #4 03-16-2005, 10:21 PM

I think this is a weak fold. He's not shown you much to get you out of there with your hand.

At worst, call him down and then you'll have a read. This way you're just left wondering whether he bluffed you off your hand. What are you going to do in the next hand with him?

mosdef · #5 03-16-2005, 10:21 PM

if you're willing to call the 3-bet preflop, what were you hoping to get on the flop that you would play? what do you think he has? pocket aces or pocket kings?

ThePenguin · #6 03-16-2005, 10:22 PM

Bad. I'd three bet the flop. Possible hands you are ahead of: AK, AQs, 1010, maybe 99. If you get capped, call and hope for an A on the turn. Bet the turn if he calls your three-bet, regardless of what comes. If he raises, you can fold.

Roland19 · #7 03-16-2005, 10:23 PM

I don't really like this fold either. Without a read, I think I would 3 bet the flop and bet the turn if called. In the case of a turn cap, I probably call down after that. I'm not sure how correct this is, but I generally find myself doing that in situations such as these. Is this too passive? Does anybody like a stop and go?

pokerkai · #8 03-16-2005, 10:24 PM

let me add my voice to all the people poo poo'ing over this fold

CallMeIshmael · #9 03-16-2005, 10:44 PM

a) Yes, this is a very bad play.

b) I'm also surprised that no one has offered the check, check, bet line.

With the minor exceptions of A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and possibly A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], free cards won't be much of a problem here.

Thoughts?