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Old 03-15-2005, 11:03 PM
KooJo KooJo is offline
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Default QQ flop top set

This was my first hand at the table, so I had no read on villain.


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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB


Did I play this right?
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

I'd cap the flop, and if he still leads into you on the turn then call down unless you fill up. Your line might be better, but I really don't want to be 3-bet on the turn.
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:14 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

I think you played it perfectly. Nice hand.

Brad
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

What's the purpose for calling the flop 3-bet rather than capping it? Aren't we just risking an unprofitable 3 bets on the turn if he really did flop a straight?
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

I think I would've capped the flop, and if he continued betting the turn, just call down. (I have weak tight tendencies, tho, so I may be wrong.)
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

Raising the turn after not capping the flop is a bit weird, I think. Doesn't change the hand that much IMHO, Hero still slowed down appropriately.
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

I'd easily be doing this for added value when I'm a little more sure top set is currently winning. He's going to call your raise in a pot that big. I think here he might be sitting on a lower set or two-pair enough to take his line, but I dunno.
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

not capping the flop encourages villian to bet into us on the turn, so we can raise. capping the flop will usually precipitate a check on the turn if the villian has a hand we beat, when we'd like him to bet into us.

to the OP, i'd have capped the turn because I just don't think he flopped a straight. then if he led the river i'd call down. but i tend to spew when i have top set on a very unthreatening board (excluding exactly one hand)
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: QQ flop top set

SB has bet into and 3-bet a preflop raiser though. He is likely to have a hand worth betting again on the turn. I would be surprised if he checked a rag turn if Hero capped. T8, QT, J9, Q8, 88. Whatever, I'm not going to argue about minutiae [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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