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Old 03-15-2005, 05:34 PM
Loci Loci is offline
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Default Re: 3-handed 10/20 NL

I think this is a call. SB is probably on a lower middle pair, a weak ace, or bull with that gross over bet. BB makes the call with a strong ace or middle pair(You said he paused, so that probably negates the possibility that he's ahead of you, imo). Even if SB wins you aren't down much by taking down BB.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed 10/20 NL

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BB thinks for a few seconds and goes all-in for about 2k total.

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I fold. This think in this situation is so often KK or AA. The think is "hmmm.... will calling here make it more likely that he will call? nah. that might even spook him. hmmm, if I push, maybe he'll think I'm isolating tilter and call with hands that would fold if I just call. OK I push." A gambler like this with TT almost always pushes pretty quickly.

If he is a real gambler, the think sometimes means AJ or AQ that he thought long and hard about.

I guess that's what it comes down to. If you think he might play AJ or AQ here, call. If you think he needs AK or a pair, then fold.

I'm pretty much ignoring SB's push here.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:40 PM
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hmmm, the only thing that even remotely wants me to fold here is the fact that you've only got $80 invested in the pot thus far

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Ugh. Always makes me sick to read "you only have xxx invested." Sick.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:55 PM
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I guess that's what it comes down to. If you think he might play AJ or AQ here, call. If you think he needs AK or a pair, then fold.

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if he would play AK folding must be an error.

Hand 1: 35.8563 % [ 00.36 00.00 ] { QQ }
Hand 2: 47.4877 % [ 00.46 00.02 ] { AA-KK, AKs, AKo }
Hand 3: 16.6560 % [ 00.15 00.02 ] { JJ-77, AKs-AQs, AKo-AQo }


edit: pasted in the wrong sim
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Old 03-15-2005, 08:04 PM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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Default Re: 3-handed 10/20 NL

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I fold. This think in this situation is so often KK or AA. The think is "hmmm.... will calling here make it more likely that he will call? nah. that might even spook him. hmmm, if I push, maybe he'll think I'm isolating tilter and call with hands that would fold if I just call. OK I push." A gambler like this with TT almost always pushes pretty quickly.

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SB is on tilt, but let's still give him credit for something - maybe AK or AQ or decent pocket pair if he wants to tilt-gamble like this.

BB knows this, so he can isolate him with a lot of hands also with pocket pair and AK or AQ to "take a good gamble"

BB also knows that it's also very unlikely that our hero here could have a big hand. I mean, this is 3 handed here.

I like BB play to call and hopefully isolate down SB. But hero has to know this and this is what hero can use to his advantage.

I call. I wouldn't say it's a no brainer decision, but given how the players are, their state of mind, what BB knows about SB and what hero knows about BB and how hero has the great advantage of being last to act here, I call.

If wrong..so be it!

Lawrence
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Old 03-15-2005, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed 10/20 NL

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I guess that's what it comes down to. If you think he might play AJ or AQ here, call. If you think he needs AK or a pair, then fold.

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if he would play AK folding must be an error.

Hand 1: 35.8563 % [ 00.36 00.00 ] { QQ }
Hand 2: 47.4877 % [ 00.46 00.02 ] { AA-KK, AKs, AKo }
Hand 3: 16.6560 % [ 00.15 00.02 ] { JJ-77, AKs-AQs, AKo-AQo }


edit: pasted in the wrong sim

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my statement
that was not the point
read it again
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Old 03-15-2005, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed 10/20 NL

it all depends if you want to gamble. you could be up against overcards or a higher pair. you could be a small favorite to a big underdog. with only 80 invested and an opponent who seems like he has some leaks in his game I being waiting for a better spot.
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Old 03-15-2005, 10:43 PM
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with only 80 invested

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once again
money invested
who cares
how much invested
not me
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: 3-handed 10/20 NL

love the new posting style.

straight poetry homie.
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: 3-handed 10/20 NL

no brainer call.

but if you have a brain, you fold.
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