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Old 03-15-2005, 04:12 PM
Shorty35 Shorty35 is offline
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Default KKK vs. three flush - size of flop bet ok?

Hand from winner take all shootout. Still early

Is my flop bet the right size?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t1330)
Button (t1035)
SB (t1440)
<font color="#C00000">BB (t1225)</font>
UTG (t1675)
UTG+1 (t1475)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1650)</font>
MP2 (t2110)
MP3 (t1560)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t90, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t75, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t360) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t90</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t710</font>, MP3 folds, SB folds, BB calls t710.

Turn: (t1900) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t335 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t335.

River: (t2570) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2570

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 6c As (flush, ace high).
Hero has Kd Kc (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: BB wins t2570. </font>
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Old 03-15-2005, 04:14 PM
Simplistic Simplistic is offline
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Default Re: KKK vs. three flush - size of flop bet ok?

you're screwed, this guy is calling with 3outs for the ace and 9 outs for the 4 flush. nothing was going to deter him from calling.

tough break with top set.
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Old 03-15-2005, 04:22 PM
TeenerBall TeenerBall is offline
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Default Re: KKK vs. three flush - size of flop bet ok?

I find that in this situation, it is always correct to river the 4th K. Otherwise pairing the board is also a viable option, IMHO.
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Old 03-17-2005, 02:01 AM
AtticusFinch AtticusFinch is offline
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Default Re: KKK vs. three flush - size of flop bet ok?

If you're going to overbetbet by that much you might as well push all in. It looks more imposing. That being said, I doubt it makes a difference here. This guy is clearly too in love with his hand. Tough break.

You're much better off betting the pot, though. Then if you're called you can at least get away from it if a fourth spade falls on the turn. Villain likely will not feel compelled to push all-in over a pot-sized bet. He'd probably prefer to take off a card and see. If he does push all in, you at least have a chance to decide if you think he has a made flush.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand from winner take all shootout. Still early

Is my flop bet the right size?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t1330)
Button (t1035)
SB (t1440)
<font color="#C00000">BB (t1225)</font>
UTG (t1675)
UTG+1 (t1475)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1650)</font>
MP2 (t2110)
MP3 (t1560)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t90, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t75, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t360) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t90</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t710</font>, MP3 folds, SB folds, BB calls t710.

Turn: (t1900) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t335 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t335.

River: (t2570) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2570

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 6c As (flush, ace high).
Hero has Kd Kc (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: BB wins t2570. </font>

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Old 03-17-2005, 03:27 AM
DemonDeac DemonDeac is offline
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Default Re: KKK vs. three flush - size of flop bet ok?

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I find that in this situation, it is always correct to river the 4th K. Otherwise pairing the board is also a viable option, IMHO.

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followed by saying as ur flipping up ur cards, "just the nuts"
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