Laying down QQ HU (5/10 Hand)

Zele · #1 03-14-2005, 04:29 PM

Villain is unknown.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB

RunDownHouse · #2 03-14-2005, 06:27 PM

You've got 2 clean Q outs. If you're drawing against a set, then that's all you have. If you're drawing against a K, you've only got those Q outs aas well. If you're drawing against 2 pair, you've got as few as 3 and as many as 6 two-pair outs. If he's pumping a flush draw + pair, you've got to dodge 11 or so cards on the river.

So I guess it depends on your read of villian, and whether you thought you were up against 2 pair, a K, a set, or a draw. He'd have to be a real nutjob to go to war on the flop with K9, much less K6 or K3, so I'm guessing you thought you were up against a set or two pair. Does the typical unknown fast-play a set on the flop like that in this game?

AlwaysWrong · #3 03-15-2005, 12:23 AM

Something fishy is going on here. I think I'd payoff.

Apocalypse · #4 03-15-2005, 08:49 AM

I call this down against an unknown any time of the day

rory · #5 03-15-2005, 11:58 AM

You are probably against a set but you have 5:1 on a call-down and the guy could easily be getting too happy about a 9 or a diamond draw. Save these types of folds for a known player.