QTs on button, blinds getting up there.. - Page 2

curtains · #11 03-14-2005, 06:52 PM

You must go allin here. Fold equity is important but pushing here is clearly +EV chipwise. When you are this short stacked with only 4x the BB, you probably won't find a more +EV situation.

Eder · #12 03-14-2005, 07:08 PM

I push here every time...you need their chips now...hopefully you get called with worse garbage...but at the 10$ table dont be suprised to see both fold

lastchance · #13 03-14-2005, 07:29 PM

Yeah, I just realized the guy only has 4x BB. You can't fold here. Push. At an $11, I think BB can fold. That's really good.

jeffraider · #14 03-14-2005, 07:37 PM

I think I'd push here with a lot less than QTs.

stripsqueez · #15 03-14-2005, 07:55 PM

i think fold equity is a crap concept

i dont like pushing on the button with a hand that doesnt want to be called - the secrets out that people push on the button with garbage hands

that said i probably push because what i've got is just a little more than garbage - if the blinds were about to go up i could find a fold

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

curtains · #16 03-14-2005, 09:49 PM

I don't think fold equity is a crap concept, merely overrated and overemphasized somewhat.

microbet · #17 03-14-2005, 10:39 PM

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i think fold equity is a crap concept

i dont like pushing on the button with a hand that doesnt want to be called

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What do you like?

Getting dealt better cards than everyone else?

If fold equity is crap, how can you beat a table full of rocks?

stripsqueez · #18 03-14-2005, 11:23 PM

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What do you like?

Getting dealt better cards than everyone else?

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you have self answered that question

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If fold equity is crap, how can you beat a table full of rocks?

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this thread is full of a discussion about folding equity and not much else - i think the basis for deciding whether to push or fold in this spot is a process involving consideration of several factors and ascribing appropriate weight to each - most guys i usually play against in the 100's and 200's have no clue what folding equity is - they regularly make awful folds and calls so its not much use arguing that they should do X because your folding equity is Y

stripsqueez - chickenhawk