JJ - Do you do anything different?

[Clarkmeister]

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You know MP3 has at least one of them because he coldcalled two preflop.

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Assuming others play like you do is a massive mistake that many players make.

[JoshuaD]

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I don't understand why river is a check/call. Pot isn't big and there are two overcards. You know MP3 has at least one of them because he coldcalled two preflop.

WTF?

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He's a 54/8/2 after 26 hands, he doesn't play a reasonable game preflop. You can't deduce much from his preflop cold-call.

After the turn we can (probably) put him on some sort of draw, most likely the flush draw. If I check to him again on this river, he might try to bluff with a hand like T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

[psyduck]

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You know MP3 has at least one of them because he coldcalled two preflop.

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Assuming others play like you do is a massive mistake that many players make.

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Clark is a god.

Ok, would check/fold make sense if the river was a spade or the As? Would it still be better to check/call because pot is sufficiently big (and because the villain seems to be a LAG)?

What if pot was smaller at the river (say 4 BB). Would it still be worthwhile check/calling this then?

Thanks and great hand joshua

[Clarkmeister]

I'd check-fold if the As came.

You have to almost check-call any other card though as postflop has been played so passively that any busted draw will take a shot at the pot.

[SinCityGuy]

When the raise the flop on a two-toned board, then check the turn, they're often on a flush draw.

When the ace hits the river, I would check/call. He might you beaten anyway, and if he does only have a busted flush draw, I want to give him a chance to bluff at it.

[psyduck]

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I'd check-fold if the As came.

You have to almost check-call any other card though as postflop has been played so passively that any busted draw will take a shot at the pot.

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Also, is everyone in agreement about the turn play? Would bet/fold to a villain raise be sane at all? What if villain had bet the turn when you checked it? Edit: if villain bets the turn after you check, is folding okay (can take him off of flush draw, no?)

[piocet]

bad bad bet on river. there is no way he's calling with a worse hand and there is no way he's folding a better hand.

[DeeJ]

I think I might 3-bet the flop against a laggy MP3 to try to see if he has the King.

I would check-call the river; I think you might be good 1 in 7 to a bluff (missed flush) or lower pair. But I don't see the merit in betting because he will raise with an Ace.

EDIT: I see Clark agrees with me. Way to go, Clark!

[TomBrooks]

Ya, I wouldn't bet into an ace on the river.

[chief444]

Check/call the river.