suspicious hand? or normal play

[tdiddy]

Okay here is a hand that looked somewhat suspicious to me. Please view the hand below and let me know if you think it is reasonable play.

I can't really understand the motives if it was collusion. Tell me what you think.

$10 + $1 NL Single table at party poker


***** Hand History for Game 29317897 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (Tournament #153191) - Tue Dec 31 01:39:39 EST 2002
Table Threshold of Success (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: tia123 (1030)
Seat 2: tdiddygambla (835)
Seat 3: DrPoker1 (560)
Seat 5: Ragner (1855)
Seat 6: ganesha (1160)
Seat 8: Rivera_ (1265)
Seat 9: spartan51 (675)
Seat 10: lepus (620)
spartan51 posts small blind (25)
lepus posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to tdiddygambla [ Th, 2s ]
tia123 folds.
tdiddygambla folds.
DrPoker1 folds.
Ragner folds.
ganesha: sweet tiddly
ganesha calls (50)
Rivera_ calls (50)
spartan51 folds.
tdiddygambla: no l
lepus raises (570)
tdiddygambla: tdiddy
ganesha calls (570)
Rivera_ calls (570)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, 8d, Js ]
lepus calls all-In.
ganesha bets (50)
Rivera_ calls (50)
Creating main pot with $1885 with players lepus
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Tc ]
ganesha: tdiddy?
ganesha bets (50)
tdiddygambla: yeah
Rivera_ calls (50)
** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]
ganesha bets (50)
Rivera_ calls (50)
ganesha: cute
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1885 | Side Pot 1: 300
Board: [ 3h 8d Js Tc Jc ]
tia123 didn't bet (folded)
tdiddygambla didn't bet (folded)
DrPoker1 didn't bet (folded)
Ragner didn't bet (folded)
ganesha lost 770 [ Qs Qh ] [ two pairs, queens and jacks ]
Rivera_ bet 770, collected 300, lost -470 [ As Ah ] [ two pairs, aces and jacks ]
spartan51 lost 25 (folded)
lepus bet 620, collected 1885, net +1265 [ 8s 8h ] [ a full house, Eights full of jacks ]

[Uglyowl]

I don't see what is suspicious about it. There may be some bad play, but nothing more, very normal.

[crazy canuck]

There are so many bad players in these tourneys (and its good like this [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] ), that it's probably just bad play. I saw someone call an all-in raise with 42 and loose to AA today. For the players defense I have to add he only had 400 chips out of the initial 800 and the cards were suited [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img].

[drewjustdrew]

If this was more than a $10 tournament, I would believe it could be collusion. It is very possible the J8 was raising for his friend, but wouldn't it also be better to raise a little to trap the other player and take all his chips?

[tdiddy]

Thanks for looking at the hand. I guess I'm just used to these players shoving all chips to center with QQ and AA as over pairs. But I think you're right. Most likely nothing wrong here.