QQ PP 11 Level 1 against flush draw board

Barrett's Last Privateer · #1 02-23-2005, 04:07 AM

Folks,

A level one hand I would like some comments on please.
Flopped middle set on a draw heavy board against 3 other players.

A pot sized bet was around 40% of my stack, so perhaps pushing the flop was an option. I wanted to bet enough to make anyone with a draw fold, though retrospectively I guess Ax spades has a lot of outs on this board.

However, after 2 check to me I'd find it pretty hard to check a set here.

Any suggestestions for different approach on the flop?
Fold or call the turn all-in?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

Hero (t822)
MP1 (t680)
MP2 (t1095)
MP3 (t460)
CO (t770)
Button (t755)
SB (t875)
BB (t958)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t785)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero raises to t75, 2 folds, MP3 calls t75, 3 folds, BB calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60.

Flop: (t310) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t310, MP3 folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t310.

Turn: (t927.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)UTG+1 bets t400 (all-in)
Hero?

Elektrik · #2 02-23-2005, 04:09 AM

The only reason I wouldn't push that flop is becuase I assume all my chips are going in there on the turn.

The.Filth · #3 03-09-2005, 03:05 AM

One thing to consider is that you're not 100% sure he has the flush. And I doubt he has the striaght or he probably would have raised you all in at the flop. Also, if he had the flush would he just push all in directly there? Or would be try to get you to call the rest of his chips in two betting rounds?

Anyhow, I think you have the odds to call. You're paying 400 more to win a 1300 pot. You're not drawing dead either. If hes has a ace high flush then you're a 5 to 1 underdog. But you aren't 100% sure he has it. He could have a pair and the straight draw and using the flush to semi bluff. And, what are you going to do with 400 chips left anyway? Unless you get lucky and double up, you're basically dead.

I would certainly call him.

curtains · #4 03-09-2005, 03:07 AM

It's clear you have to put all your chips in on the turn. Pot odds, change to improve to a full house combined with the fact that he won't always have a flush, make this an easy call.