QQ, ace on the flop

egj · #1 03-08-2005, 01:25 AM

Party 30+3. Comments on every street welcomed.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

BB (t675)
UTG (t945)
UTG+1 (t960)
MP1 (t1730)
MP2 (t605)
MP3 (t1165)
CO (t695)
Button (t545)
Hero (t680)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 calls t30, CO calls t30, 1 fold, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, MP3 calls t90, CO calls t90.

Flop: (t390) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets t200, MP3 folds, CO calls t200.

Turn: (t790) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (t790) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t375 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1165

lastchance · #2 03-08-2005, 01:30 AM

Check/fold flop. If you're going to bet, put him all-in, he doesn't have a stack.

Pepsquad · #3 03-08-2005, 01:39 AM

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Check/fold flop. If you're going to bet, put him all-in, he doesn't have a stack.

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I disagree. I think your line is fine. At this point you should have a fairly solid read on CO. Assuming he's been playing tight and hasn't gotten out of line, the 200 bet on the flop is just fine. He's not calling off 1/3 of his stack without at LEAST the ace. You got the information you needed while surviving for another hand. Just blindly pushing it in here is not something I'd recommend - especially if CO is on the Laggy side.

Pep.

Scuba Chuck · #4 03-08-2005, 03:58 AM

Yuk. I hate these situations. IMO, you're either check-folding or pushing. I've pushed hands like this with KK only to have villain fold. I don't know what is correct here, as it's always table/read/feel dependent (and luck).

gh9801 · #5 03-08-2005, 04:21 AM

It's read dependent... but without a read, being out of position, I would c/f the flop.

therock · #6 03-08-2005, 05:00 PM

Since there are two opponents, I would go into check/fold mode. Against one opponent, I would take a stab at the pot.

jph0424 · #7 03-08-2005, 05:05 PM

I like the line you took. With a big pocket pair if an over flops against 2 or fewer opponents I will generally bet around 2/3 of the pot. If an A and K had flopped or if there were 3+ opponents it becomes a check fold situation.

-JP

BigHobo · #8 03-08-2005, 05:08 PM

Check/Fold on the flop.

With two opponents who called a 4BB raise pre-flop, the probability that someone has a Ace here is too high to put any more money in.

Scuba Chuck · #9 03-08-2005, 05:13 PM

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Since there are two opponents, I would go into check/fold mode. Against one opponent, I would take a stab at the pot.

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This is the best advice.