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Old 03-06-2005, 06:17 PM
Bob T. Bob T. is offline
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Default KK, Playing the nuts fast sometimes works.

Online 5-10 game.

UTG, I have KK, suits won't matter by the end of this hand.

I open raise, MP a loose aggressive chaser coldcalls, button coldcalls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop KKT. See, the suits don't matter.

Check to me, Checking would probably look suspicious, so I bet. LAG, and button both call, BB folds.

Turn 6, I bet, LAG raises, button folds, I reraise, and LAG calls.

River 2, I bet, LAG raises again, I reraise again, and he calls.

He had TT.
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Old 03-06-2005, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: KK, Playing the nuts fast sometimes works.

either you had a tremendous respect at the table or he wasn´t as Laggy after all...
hell, I would have capped the turn and very probably the river also...

hm... does that make me a LAG?
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Old 03-06-2005, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: KK, Playing the nuts fast sometimes works.

I think he didn't cap the turn, because he was being tricky. I think he didn't cap the river, because even LAGs recognize that someone who bets or raises 6 times, might have something good.
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Old 03-06-2005, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: KK, Playing the nuts fast sometimes works.

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I think he didn't cap the turn, because he was being tricky. I think he didn't cap the river, because even LAGs recognize that someone who bets or raises 6 times, might have something good.

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There's only 1 hand in the deck that beats him, and there's only 1 way to get it.

I'd cap this turn and river with TT and never look back.
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Old 03-06-2005, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: KK, Playing the nuts fast sometimes works.

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There's only 1 hand in the deck that beats him, and there's only 1 way to get it.



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What do you have against K6 and K2?
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Old 03-07-2005, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: KK, Playing the nuts fast sometimes works.

Or for that matter, KT suited, which on a frisky day, might be a raise.
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Old 03-07-2005, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: KK, Playing the nuts fast sometimes works.

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There's only 1 hand in the deck that beats him, and there's only 1 way to get it.



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What do you have against K6 and K2?

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Hero is not raising K6 or K2 UTG, even a LAG will notice this. KT is possibile but there are only 2 ways to have that. Therefore, there are 3 hands that beat him. There are more raising hands for Hero that the LAG is way ahead of (AK 8 ways, JJ or QQ 6 ways each, etc.). I'd cap the turn with TT day in, day out. Probably the river too.
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Old 03-07-2005, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: KK, Playing the nuts fast sometimes works.

He's a LAG, not an idiot, and I am pretty sure that he realizes that I am not an idiot.

When I three bet the turn, he has to start giving me credit for a King, which means I probably have AK or KQ. I think that he didn't cap the turn, because he was being a little tricky with his full house.

When I threebet the river, I think that he realized that I had a real good hand, and as unlikely as it might be, his hand was probably not worth capping with.
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Old 03-07-2005, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: KK, Playing the nuts fast sometimes works.

I was replying mainly to private_joker, in that while K6 and K2 beat TT, they are highly unlikely given Hero's play.

I think a turn cap is automatic here. A river cap is certainly read dependent. If I knew you were a TAG I'd give credit for an extremely strong hand and call your 3bet. Against an unknown I'd cap.

Also, I don't play $5/10, just throwing in my opinion.
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