POLL: playing out of racks VS not playing out of racks in LHE

[Al_Capone_Junior]

The "working stack rule" has been tried and abandoned in a couple casinos here in las vegas. The rulemaker had good intentions, but it's simply impractical - it's so ambiguous that the average poker playing dullard simply cannot fathom it in a billion years.

no racks.

al

[Al_Capone_Junior]

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People taking chips out of a rack, one by one, every time action gets to them, yes, that would slow the game down, not to mention be absolutely retarded.

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I don't know how much you play in live cardrooms, but in the typical vegas 2-4 game this would be like half the players, every single time.

Clearing the pot is not necessary for the next hand to be played, and typically clearing the pot doesn't slow the game down very much. Heck, half the 2-4 players don't clear their pots for 4-5 hands, whether they have a rack or not.

The working stack rule sucks, see my earlier post on the matter in this thread.

al

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Asking the dealers to keep track of player's stacks and enforce the "working stack rule" would be terrible because:

1. the dealers have enough to worry about already, particularly the new dealers.

2. the dullards at the tables don't and won't understand the working stack rule.

3. the dealers would have to explain to each and every individual dullard a billion times the supposed "logic" of the rule, which would again slow down the game, distract the dealer, get the players pissed off, reduce dealer tips, etc etc ad nauseum.

al

[DeuceKicker]

Another NO here. As has already been stated, the delay comes not in stacking the chips (though it's still faster to stack with no rack) but in counting them out to bet. Even if stacking with a rack were faster, every pot would have 3-8 people slowly counting out chips out of a rack, and usually only one stacking them back in.

I think the fact that the rack option requires players to have a stack out of the rack for play, and that so far every long-time player/dealer has unequivocally been in favor of no rack is pretty tellling.

Also, if you're interested in accurate poll results rather than lobbying for your viewpoint, a more unbiased wording of the questions would help.

[detroitplayer]

The only reason I worded the poll like that was to make clear that the only way I would be in favor of racks was ONLY IF players also kept a stack of chips on the table ready for action at all times.

That is why I worded the poll like that because I know simply playing directly out of racks would be just as much of a cluster f_ck.

Anyway, everyone's made good points. I made this poll in a moment of semi-frustration, and I've pretty much lost interest in the subject altogether. This thread can die now as far as I'm concerned.

G'day!