bet the river?

pointcount · #1 03-07-2005, 08:15 AM

In retrospect I don't think the river was a value bet here...

From memory both villans are 30ish VPIP PFR around 7

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

Reef · #2 03-07-2005, 08:25 AM

hmm.. I just hate AQo vs. a pfr. But he is in MP3, so a 3-bet is the way to go, I guess.

I don't bet this river 3 handed

Yeknom58 · #3 03-07-2005, 08:27 AM

This is just silly...heads up - yea bet it...players left are tight- yea bet it...againsts 2 opponents who are fairly loose-check.

ArturiusX · #4 03-07-2005, 08:55 AM

Im too afraid of a check-raise and a wasted bet.

I check.

pointcount · #5 03-07-2005, 09:00 AM

I'm not so much afraid of a check-raise here as I am thinking this was pretty stupid. I can't remember what was going through my head at the time, something along the lines of villans both had overs (hence the checked turn) and I was probably best.

Looking back at it now it's definately a check. I'd bet it HU though. Thanks for the reality check.

Buckmulligan · #6 03-07-2005, 10:27 AM

I actually like the bet if the board is a little scarier, because then you would be getting 6.5:1 on a bluff, but with that board, you are not going to get very many made hands to fold, nor are you probably going to have the best hand at SD.

toss · #7 03-07-2005, 11:44 AM

I wouldn't bet this. I don't see any better hands folding much and I don't see many worse hands calling either.

davelin · #8 03-07-2005, 11:46 AM

I'm rarely value-betting A-high on the river. Even in HU situations.

__Q__ · #9 03-07-2005, 12:00 PM

I'd prefere a bet on the turn to a bet on the river. Atleast then you have a shot at picking up the pot. I wouldn't necessarily bet THIS turn, though. The river bet probably will only get called by better hands, I think checking just saves you a bet in the times when you are behind.

MHarris · #10 03-07-2005, 12:56 PM

Don't value bet this river when you have position against 2 players. There is no value here. You won't get a better hand to fold and worse hands are unlikely to call. You've been given a free showdown, so take it.