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Old 03-06-2005, 02:03 PM
Marquis Marquis is offline
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Default 44 w/ odds to see the turn and river?

I'm getting 16-1 immediate odds to see the turn, so peeling one off is ok, eh?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button folds.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: 44 w/ odds to see the turn and river?

the flop call is probably ok

the turn call is really bad
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: 44 w/ odds to see the turn and river?

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the flop call is probably ok

the turn call is really bad

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double count how many outs you are giving him on the turn.
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: 44 w/ odds to see the turn and river?

Dude, 12.5 to 1, even if I only count the 3 non-[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3s as solid outs I almost have enough to call. But I have way more than 3 outs here.
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: 44 w/ odds to see the turn and river?

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the flop call is probably ok

the turn call is really bad

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double count how many outs you are giving him on the turn.

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my bad, its worth a call .. its still not that strong of draw, a 4 puts 4to a straight on the board, its 2flushed, any 8 makes a better 1cardstraight possible ... its worth calling getting 12.5/1 but its a modest draw at best
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: 44 w/ odds to see the turn and river?

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Dude, 12.5 to 1, even if I only count the 3 non-[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3s as solid outs I almost have enough to call. But I have way more than 3 outs here.

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way more? what discounts are you giving the 8's, 4's, and 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

your relative position goes a long way in case an 8 or 4 peels off and you are facing a couple bets cold or something.
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 44 w/ odds to see the turn and river?

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Dude, 12.5 to 1, even if I only count the 3 non-[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3s as solid outs I almost have enough to call. But I have way more than 3 outs here.

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way more? what discounts are you giving the 8's, 4's, and 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

your relative position goes a long way in case an 8 or 4 peels off and you are facing a couple bets cold or something.

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OK, "way" might be a bad choice of word. But if all my outs are clean, I have 10 outs. Wanna give me 6?
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