I'm embarrased

[jt1]

PP 3/6 UTG+1 is new to the table and UTG seems decent. Hero has black kings in CO

I've done this a couple of times in the last few days. Should I stop immediately?

UTG raises. UTG=1 3 bets. Hero calls. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

That is the play in question, although the flop isn't standard either.

rest of the hand goes like this

sb calls. UTG calls.

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG bets. UTG+1 raises. Hero calls. SB calls. UTG folds

x [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG+1 checks. Hero bets. SB raises. UTG+1 folds. Hero calls

x

bet, call

[Niediam]

You are going to win this hand well more than 33% of the time. By not raising you are saying 'no thank you' to your opponent's offer of money.

[dangerous_badman]

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Hero has black kings in CO

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UTG raises. UTG=1 3 bets. Hero calls.

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Eh?

[jt1]

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You are going to win this hand well more than 33% of the time. By not raising you are saying 'no thank you' to your opponent's offer of money.



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I recognized the possibility of being up against Aces, but was really just trying to be cute. I thought I could make up the lost bb and then some somewhere down the road if I just called.

On the flop, I thought to myself that no body will fold a gutshot if I raise, so I'll wait until the turn. And I'll get more money by flush callers on the turn too

[Knoler]

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I recognized the possibility of being up against Aces, but was really just trying to be cute. I thought I could make up the lost bb and then some somewhere down the road if I just called.

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That's the thing, though -- you'll make up the 2 lost SBs *if* UTG bets out on the flop and you raise it up. However, if you cap it, and UTG bets out, you can *still* raise it, getting more into the pot. Also, it's far more interesting if UTG bets into a hand you capped.

The best reason to cap, though, is that you very frequently have the best hand here.

Regards,
-Brian

[Shillx]

I'm going to war on the flop like 100% of the time here. Failing to do so is not a good thing.

Brad

[jt1]

I doubt very much that my move was the proper one, but I'm not digging these arguments.

I'll also make up the bb if someone calls preflop, and I should be able to make it up on the turn unless UTG+1 has AK and misses. But, on the other hand, such a player would call my turn bet, but wouldn't if I capped the flop.

What about the flop play?

[jt1]

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I'm going to war on the flop like 100% of the time here. Failing to do so is not a good thing.


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Why?

[Niediam]

Because you are going to have the best hand atleast 75% of the time here and your opponents are willing to put chips in the pot.

[rmarotti]

Because your hand has a great deal of equity. Not going to war here is leaving bets on the table. It's not really close.