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Old 03-03-2005, 03:20 AM
Barrett's Last Privateer Barrett's Last Privateer is offline
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Default PP 11 Level 2 hand

Folks,

Would really appreciate some feedback on this hand.

After it was checked round on the flop thought it was worth a stab on the turn, and I called the raise for 60 more with the intiention of check/folding the river to any decent sized bet, and feeling that there was enough chance I was ahead to justify the call (less so than having outs if behind).

Am I ever going to get raised by less than an ace in this spot?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t1475)
MP1 (t615)
MP2 (t1515)
CO (t1135)
Button (t1215)
Hero (t745)
BB (t670)
UTG (t630)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t120) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t120</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Hero calls t60.

River: (t360) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: t360
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Old 03-03-2005, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: PP 11 Level 2 hand


I think that betting the turn is reasonable with this hand, and that I'd fold as soon as someone raises me. (Checking the turn is reasonable as well, as is raising a large amount preflop (150-200 range.)

The problem with calling on the turn, is that even if you have the best hand (Which won't be often), you will often be faced with a large river bet that you can't call, thus rendering all these hands irrelevant.
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Old 03-03-2005, 03:30 AM
MagnoliasFM MagnoliasFM is offline
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Default Re: PP 11 Level 2 hand

I'm sure 90% of the forum disagrees with me here, but I probably would have gone all-in before the flop, for reasons I have discussed elsewhere. This is a prime example of one of what I call "coinflip situations."

In brief:

You either win the blinds and the money from the limpers (a significant amount compared to your stack)

Or you will get called by a range of hands which you are a favorite against.
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Old 03-03-2005, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: PP 11 Level 2 hand


In low limit games I have no huge problem with moving allin (Thats not to say it'd be my recommended play). Youll get called by lots of garbage.
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Old 03-03-2005, 04:46 AM
Seadood228 Seadood228 is offline
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Default Re: PP 11 Level 2 hand

I'd fold to the raise in a flash. If you had position it might be a different story.

And I don't think moving in preflop is a bad play by any means. I have seen A LOT of people call with TT-22 and Ax in SNGs as high as the 30s.
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