KK not always push anymore eh? - Page 3

schwza · #21 03-02-2005, 04:55 PM

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i drop close to 800 on the hand and vow never to sit deep again unless i know the other deep stacks are bad as i apparenlty have no idea how to play a river with chips in front of me.

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Put another way, sitting deep is pretty much like playing up a level. If you wont play a level with a 4X starting stack over your current level then don't keep playing at 4X your stack when others match you chip for chip.

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the stakes were not the problem. i would rather play 8-16 with 800 in front than 2-4 with 800 in front against equal competition (although both would make me a little nervous). in my familiar 50x game, you never have to face a big overbet on the river unless there's been very little action.

Yosemite Mark · #22 03-02-2005, 05:50 PM

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BTW, I started completing KQs at 6-max when the table has a low PFR. It's not that bad, but I've seen better [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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This is off topic, but why complete the SB w/KQs when the table has a low PFR, but not a high one? If I'm at a high PFR table, and it's limped all around, I can be almost certian I'm not dominated by AK or AQ, correct?

sourbeaver · #23 03-02-2005, 07:17 PM

n/m

Smoove · #24 03-03-2005, 12:54 AM

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If you're first to act and wait to push the flop regardless then you get that party poker magic working for you. It's called mixing up your play.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Hero ($242.45)
BB ($216.05)
UTG ($0)
MP ($107.7)
CO ($70.15)
Button ($71.6)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
MP calls $1, CO raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises to $10.5, 1 fold, MP calls $10, CO raises to $25, Hero calls $14, MP folds.

Flop: ($62) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $46, CO calls $45.15 (All-In).

Turn: ($153.15) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($153.15) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $153.15

Results:
Hero has Kd Kc (straight, king high).
UTG doesn't show.
CO has Ah Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $153.14.

amoeba · #25 03-03-2005, 01:07 AM

its not about just getting beat by that one hand, its how likely worse hands are going to call you when stacks are 100xBB deep.

amoeba · #26 03-03-2005, 01:10 AM

on a side note, the worst is when you raise with KK, get reraised, you call that reraise and the flop comes Q high.

That is the worst feeling.

TheWorstPlayer · #27 03-03-2005, 01:11 AM

Worst flop push ever? Nice. I also like pushing with KK on a QJx flop...