QQ in LP, fold to turn 3 bet?

brettbrettr · #1 03-02-2005, 09:09 PM

pokerroom 2/4

I have QQ and the button. 2 limpers, hero raises BB calls, all call.

5 to flop of 336, 2 hearts. BB (seems loose, moronic, but only 25 hands) bets, 2 calls, 1 fold, I raise, all call.

Turn: 5 (not a heart) SB bets, BB calls, I raise, SB 3-bets, BB calls, hero folds.

brettbrettr · #2 03-02-2005, 11:16 PM

sorry if this is dull, my confidence is shot

mr pink · #3 03-02-2005, 11:40 PM

sb checking and calling 2 cold on the flop is awfully supspicious.

einbert · #4 03-02-2005, 11:59 PM

I think this is close.

I probably would have called down against an unknown, he could be playing a smaller overpair in this way. More likely he has a 3 or the 47o for the straight, but the board is so ragged that I'm really tempted to call this one down.

LSU POKER PIMP · #5 03-03-2005, 12:01 AM

I am new to poker. so maybe i am completly wrong and please someone point out if i make a mistake, but your pot odds were like 17.5:1. Shouldnt that pot be large enough to call

Spicymoose · #6 03-03-2005, 12:30 AM

Id be pretty convinced that SB has the 3. That said, I would still probably call the turn, and call one more on the river (given no A or K comming). Raising and folding to the 3 bet gets the same results, but you don't get to possibly spike your Q on the river.

MisterKing · #7 03-03-2005, 02:58 AM

Compensating for rake, you're getting 15+:1 on a call at the turn. You will probably be able to see a showdown getting overall odds of 17:2 (one more bet from SB, a call by BB in addition to the ~15BB already in the pot, one bet to call the turn and one to call in position on the river). So, if you think you're going to be good 10% of the time, I think you need to call-call. This is even more true if you think BB will drop out on the river when he doesn't improve.

That said, the flop check/call two by SB and lead out on the turn smacks of slowplayed trips, though a few other hands are possible. Any reads?

brettbrettr · #8 03-03-2005, 10:55 AM

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QTip · #9 03-03-2005, 11:05 AM

Sorry to hear that Brett...you must be working to clear the bonus at crappy PokerRoom (hate that frickin site)...

Hang in there my man...

I would slow it down and call down. I think the pot is just too big to fold...sure, he probably sucked you out...but that's what happens to good players. I really like the first portion of TOP, pages 1 and 2 on this topic...it always encourages me when it seems like I'm playing with a sign on my forehead "SUCK ME OUT".