This is how an AA hand is supposed to go .. (low content)

steveyz · #1 03-01-2005, 07:23 PM

UTG+2 is 50/11 preflop, postflop will go to felt with any top pair

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Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (16 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG raises, UTG+2 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero caps, MP3 calls, CO folds, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, MP3 calls, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero caps, MP3 calls, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

River: (44 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 folds, Hero raises, MP3 calls, SB folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls $3 (All-In).

Final Pot: 51.10 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG has Kc Qs (one pair, queens).
UTG+2 has Jh Qc (one pair, queens).
Hero has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
MP3 has Qh Kd (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 51.10 BB.

BradL · #2 03-01-2005, 07:29 PM

nh, nice pot.

-Brad

JAA · #3 03-01-2005, 07:57 PM

NH Sir.

Please post this under the "Is it just me or are the Party games getting tougher" thread.

- Jags

bvaughn · #4 03-01-2005, 09:01 PM

nh, nice pot. Does anyone else think that Hero overplayed his hand? Maybe I'm a wimp, but I think I slow way down on the turn, even with your caveat that UTG+2 is terrible with top pair. With that many callers, it's a minor miracle that no one had two pair or a set just sitting back letting the hyper-aggo's bet their hand for them.

bpb · #5 03-02-2005, 01:44 PM

I would have called down after the turn 3-bet. If I capped the turn, I would have just called the river bet. Do you really think you're ahead 60% of the time here (cause he sure as hell is going to 3-bet the set or QT he's representing).

Hell, I might even buy calling down after the turn bet, given that you cold-capped the flop, and he's still firing.

I just think this was extremely reckless.

steveyz · #6 03-02-2005, 02:01 PM

I've already witnessed this particular opponent cap the turn and river against me on a T94QA board with Q7o (I had KJ for the nuts). As I said, this player will cap turn and river with anything close to top pair. I was more worried about all the callers playing a rag two pair weakly. But notice that I was getting a huge overlay for all of my bets. Even if I was behind to a rag two pair on the turn, I was getting 5:1 for every bet I was putting in to improve. The action of the other players didn't indicate that they held more than one pair. The other opponents were the generally loose/bad type that would not have been sophisticated enough to be doing the rope-a-dope all along with a strong hand letting me & the maniac pump up the pop.

Peter_rus · #7 03-02-2005, 02:18 PM

I think raising river is defenitely -ev play due to number of players in a pot, it's massiveness and third spade to come. I consider capping turn is fine as no one shows any sign of 2pairs or set. Of course i ignore LAG cause if we were HU with him i would slow down only when he 3-bets river.

bpb · #8 03-02-2005, 03:27 PM

OK, I dig the turn cap now due to the huge overlay from the other players.

And given that UTG+1 is all-in on your river raise ... I'll buy that too.

I withdraw my reckless comment.

steveyz · #9 03-02-2005, 03:30 PM

I assume that you meant the third club. And if I doubt anyone was drawing to that as it would be runner-runner.