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Old 02-27-2005, 08:19 AM
quix0tic quix0tic is offline
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Default Re: 6 handed NL 100 at Party Poker - How much $/h can a pro make?

No. Besides being on the wrong coast, the group was essentially disbanded in 2000 or so. I'm surprised it was recognized and commented on. While on the subject of the obscure but laudable, anyone recognize the "colorless green ideas sleep furiously" hook in my profile?

Back to poker. I think my winrate (like 25.3bb/100 last time i checked) is sustainable based on the vast difference in hand reading, and my willingness to apply pressure based on these reads. My actual might be like 18-20 but I think its in the same ballpark. I could always be wrong of course. Seriously, am I the only one who raises with queen high here? Of course I prefer semibluffs to pure ones but it's really just a function of fold equity and if there's enough... why not. Plus, when stacks are deep enough, I can effectively represent draws I don't have so even pure bluffs with cards to come (in position) are almost like semibluffs. Ahhhh, I love the art of lagging. It's much much more fun and intellectually stimulating than nut peddling. I feel like I've been released from prison, the prison of needing cards to win.
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Old 02-27-2005, 09:00 AM
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Default Re: 6 handed NL 100 at Party Poker - How much $/h can a pro make?

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do you implement any table selection?


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Perhaps a better question would be whether I implement any mood (for lack of a better word) selection. Lately I have been playing when I have a lot of sleep, feel clearheaded and have a desire to hit the tables. If I'm frustrated in any way over a midterm or girl or something, I relax first. Definetely don't play after drinking or too late at night, and break after about 600 hands regardless. If I take a few beats or run into a big hand while bluffing, I stop until I'm clear again.

There is tons of discussion about game selection and table selection on this site but I'd be curious to hear from others about this kind of selection. I used to be fairly reckless about when I'd play. This change seems to correspond to a turningpoint in my winrate. In retrospect, I'm sure I was playing for sustained time when my bb/100 was negative (aka tilt), and many other times when it was suboptimal. I feel like this has been a momentous change, not just financially but also emotionally. Playing bad and losing money feels like [censored] and makes me dislike poker. Maybe I just had horrible discipline before... others experienced this tournaround?
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Old 02-27-2005, 10:02 AM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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Default Re: 6 handed NL 100 at Party Poker - How much $/h can a pro make?

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So youre making 2.5PTBB/ 100 hands....or 5 Big Blinds per 100 hands.

A good player can make double that and a great player can make triple or maybe slightly more.

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I think 5-10 is a sustainable rate, but any higher would truly require a significant marginal increase in skill just due to the fact that the cap buy-in is restricted to 50x BB as opposed to most other sites which have a 100x BB max buy-in which hugely affects the BB/100 for NL games.

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Old 02-27-2005, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: 6 handed NL 100 at Party Poker - How much $/h can a pro make?

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And his reason for only doing so with 100bb+ stacks is so that a short stack doesn't force a showdown of such tactics, when he would otherwise always muck if played back at.

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i dont understand this. if a big stack plays back hes going to have to muck his queen high no pair also.
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Old 02-27-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: 6 handed NL 100 at Party Poker - How much $/h can a pro make?

You can apply way more pressure to a big stack. If I represent an ace here, a small stack with ~60 more might just say f-it, I have kings, im going with it. A stack with ~160 more can't really do that, and if he does, I'll adjust and bust him everytime I get a decent hand. Also, the small stack doesn't have enough left to make turn or river scare cards "scary".
It can also be seen as just pure game theory. If I am bluffing here like 60% of the time, he might be about correct to push with his small stack. Given the same bluff% and a deeper stack however, he cannot push. He has to risk far more to win whats in the middle with 100bb. I'd have to be bluffing like 80-90% for a push to be profitable with the deeper stack. That's a hard read to make, so i usually just pick up the pot here.
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Old 02-27-2005, 09:59 PM
$DEADSEXE$ $DEADSEXE$ is offline
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Default Re: 6 handed NL 100 at Party Poker - How much $/h can a pro make?

Agreed...this is common sense. Its why they call is SSA(Small Stack attack).
If your gonna bluff big you should alw3aystry to do it against a good size stack...
a small stack with go with the apply put "fcukit" strategy and let it ride...especially on a fishy site like Party.
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Old 02-27-2005, 10:33 PM
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wr not sustainable... 10 PT bb/100 is probably right around the max. i'd like to be proven wrong, but no one has been able to show anything over that as sustainable over a long period of hands.
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