Foxwoods 1/2 NL - worth the time?

rookieplus · #1 02-26-2005, 03:30 PM

I was there Thursday (after taking a terrible beat early in the 250 person NL tournament - I promise no bad beat storues) and played NL for most of the day. As I got a horrible run of cards and managed to stay off tilt I had to do something so I decided to contemplate:

1. $5 per half hour to play
2. Averaging ten! hands per half hour because:
2a. Lots of slow players
2b. Too many people buying in at the table instead of getting chips at the cage
2c. So many buy ins at the table that they fill often
2d. For every good dealer (and there are a bunch of good ones) there is a bad one right around the corner

So I'm in for $16/hour with the blinds. Add to that the swings that are normal in a loose NL game, the chance of getting on a terrible run of cards, and I wonder if it's even worth sitting at one of these tables. Yes they're juicy if you get a big fish, but to play 100 hands you're talking about five hours, and that's if you don't get up to use the rest room.

Don't get me wrong, I love the place and wish I could get there more. I just wonder if the particular game is worth it.

smoore · #2 02-26-2005, 03:31 PM

I can't imagine it's worth it if you're only getting 20 hands per hour.

toots · #3 02-26-2005, 04:38 PM

I saw a $960 pot at one of those $1/2 tables the other day. What's surprising was that two of the for people who saw it to the river (and indeed did a lot of the betting) had essentially nothing.

Sure wish I had a piece of that hand.

Yeah, there's lots of poser/wannabe posing, but the game's loose. Take some beats, but if you play well, it'll be money ahead sooner or later, even at 20 hands/hour. I mean, I saw one guy go all in every time he got dealt an ace. Doesn't that appeal to you, even a little?

rookieplus · #4 02-26-2005, 08:03 PM

Too bad I wasn't in that game. And yes, you take a ton of bad beats (like the time this week when I had QQ cracked when a guy with ace high called a big bet of mine and rivered you know what - wonder if that was the same guy). It just strikes me that the number of hands per hour is so low that the swings combined with the high rake makes the game a losing proposition unless you can play it for a very long time.

I think the gamne would be tons better if they didn't do so much chip changing at the table.

TomCollins · #5 02-26-2005, 08:27 PM

If you can't beat this game, even with the time charges, you officially suck. That game has people practically throwing money at you.

Durs522 · #6 02-27-2005, 10:23 PM

This game is definitely worth the time. You have the opportunity to make a lot of money from people who really don't know what they're doing. If you sit and wait for your hands its not hard to get paid off.

tdarko · #7 02-27-2005, 11:20 PM

i thought that they threw money at you in the 5/5 nl game there too [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

IgorSmiles · #8 02-28-2005, 10:33 AM

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Exactly. The competition is a bit better in the 5/5 game but the opportunity to win so much more money for only slightly higher rake makes it a thousand times better a game. The 1/2 game is for tourists not real players.

perfectm · #9 02-28-2005, 02:27 PM

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i thought that they threw money at you in the 5/5 nl game there too [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Exactly. The competition is a bit better in the 5/5 game but the opportunity to win so much more money for only slightly higher rake makes it a thousand times better a game. The 1/2 game is for tourists not real players.

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I'm glad that you are so quick to judge whether or not someone is a real player by their ability to sit down with two grand or not. I've seen some absolute terrible play at the Foxwoods 5/5. I think there are plenty of players, myself and friends included who enjoy playing the 1/2 successfully and repeatedly.

IgorSmiles · #10 02-28-2005, 02:50 PM

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i thought that they threw money at you in the 5/5 nl game there too [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Exactly. The competition is a bit better in the 5/5 game but the opportunity to win so much more money for only slightly higher rake makes it a thousand times better a game. The 1/2 game is for tourists not real players.

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I'm glad that you are so quick to judge whether or not someone is a real player by their ability to sit down with two grand or not. I've seen some absolute terrible play at the Foxwoods 5/5. I think there are plenty of players, myself and friends included who enjoy playing the 1/2 successfully and repeatedly.

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I've never once sat in the 5/5 game with two grand. I always play short, not by choice I just dont have the bank.

There are some horrible players at 5/5. We agree.

If you enjoy the 1/2, knock yourself out. Call me a snob if you'd like, but the $100 cap on the buyin coupled with the skill level of the players make it a weak game taylor made (Intentionally I might add) for rookies and tourists.