ACR Prop Program

[AmericasCardroom]

Hi all,

As Prop Players seem to be the topic of the moment and our program is getting a little coverage from those already involved (both the good and bad points) I thought I would take the opportunity to further explain it.

Whilst we do call it a Prop Program at ACR, it could be more accurately described as our Frequent Player program and as I have been meaning to for some time now will indeed be altering the name to reflect that this week.

The reason for the difference is that we do not "manage" our prop players in either the limits or the games they play. You are more then welcome to play at any limit and any game of choice that is running in the cardroom - you are even welcome to stay at full tables provided you help us get another table of that game/limit going.

The only critical requirement that you have, is to play a min of 20 hours per week at games of 1/2 limit and above and that each session you play is of approx 2 hours or greater.

If you are meeting these requirments then you are paid your "bonuses" at the end of the week - your rake at 1/2 games is refunded, your paid 8 cents per hand at 2/4 and 3/6 level and 16 cents for 4/8 level and above.

Feel free to contact me should you wish any further details.

Kind regards,

Torstyn Cole

[Ted Geisel]

An ACR prop has described her experience with what happens when an unknown player or fish enters prop-infested waters.

Can you "further explain" how props quickly chopping up a fish builds traffic ?

[Fraubump]

I have to say that my favorite thing about Torstyn, who is generally a swell guy and extremely reasonable person to work for/with {however you would describe the relationship between prop (or "frequent player") and cardroom} (parasitic?) is that he uses the archaic "whilst".

[CreamPuff]

Can you "further explain" how props quickly chopping up
a fish builds traffic ?

Good point Ted...

There is somewhat of a tightrope casino's need to walk
when using props.

They do have their place. I think you can break it down
to where if a game consistently has more good playing
props than regulars, forget it...There isn't much chance
of ever building a real game. Eventually the props and
game will go busted.


Midsize sites like UB, Party earlier in the year benefit
greatly.

Steve Morrow at PokerStars seems anti-prop, boasting
his site never has used them. And still the games
are tougher than UB's and Party's, and he get's less
traffic in the ring games.

ACR wouldn't make any $, if it weren't for props.
They need to make more improvements. Changing the
name from "Prop Program" to "Frequent Player Program"
isn't going to do much good.
They do a good job marketing that site, but need to
patch of the technical side.
(They prop pay seems lousy, unless they include non-raked
hands into the equation)

As a side note, you will always find people that
are 100% anti-prop in a B&M or internet site.
They usually are bad players, who cannot make a logical
argument against them (There are a few exceptions).

[Michael Davis]

Fraubump,

The language is constantly in flux, and "whilst" is not considered archaic everywhere in Britain.

He might look into the contracted "you're" rather than "your," however.

Mike

[justice4all]

Thanks for the post. [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]