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Old 02-21-2005, 05:00 PM
morberg morberg is offline
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Default KK against some heavy fire

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (29 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 32 BB

The betting in this hand was insane. When the pot grows this large it is difficult to lay down your hand. How would you have played it?
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Old 02-21-2005, 05:09 PM
IsaacW IsaacW is offline
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Default Re: KK against some heavy fire

<font color="#ffffff">I really want to fold this turn when it's two back to me.</font>

EDIT: I'm a [censored] idiot and missed the flush draw. Shillx is right and I am teh s uck.
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Old 02-21-2005, 05:12 PM
rmarotti rmarotti is offline
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Default Re: KK against some heavy fire

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I really want to fold this turn when it's two back to me.

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Old 02-21-2005, 05:18 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: KK against some heavy fire

This is bogus. Did you even look at the pot size? The pot will be 27 BB w/o taking into account river action. Let's say that 1 BB will go in on the river should we make our flush (or kings full). We have an assumed 10 outs.

29(.217 - X) = 2(.783) + 3X

X &lt;= .148

This means that we have to call even if we know that we are drawing dead 68% of the time (meaning we make a flush and still lose. So if someone has QQ and the Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hits the river, that would constitute drawing dead)! Folding the turn is a horrible suggestion.

Brad

We would actually have 11 outs to kings full/flush, so the call is even easier to make
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