Should I have bet this river?

Shoe · #1 02-21-2005, 04:37 AM

Should I have bet this river? The check-raise was from a rather tight player.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (5.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, BB raises, Hero calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has 8c Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has Js As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.16 BB.

cold_cash · #2 02-21-2005, 04:48 AM

Why are you limping?

3-bet the flop, see what happens. If he just calls, bet the turn and river.

Michael Davis · #3 02-21-2005, 04:50 AM

Yes, absolutely this is a river bet. Remember, if he's tight and also observant he doesn't expect you to have a big ace here. If you were just going to call the flop you should pop the turn and go from there.

-Michael

Nice_Guy · #4 02-21-2005, 04:53 AM

Why not raise this preflop?

syphlix · #5 02-21-2005, 04:56 AM

i think i would usually raise that preflop...

also.. i think 3-betting the flop is in order... don't forget you've got position on him too... so what if he just hit some dinky ace and u end up making next to nothing on the hand cuz he cr'ed you on the flop?....

if he caps you... well.... then mebbe in that case you're fux0red...

bet the river... doubtful that he's gonna c/r flop, lead the turn... then go for a c/r on the river...

Shoe · #6 02-21-2005, 04:58 AM

Thanks for the advice guys, I think I definitely need to work on becoming more aggressive in situations like this.

RollingRockMike · #7 02-21-2005, 06:58 AM

I think your biggest hole is limping preflop. I don't think your hand is strong enough to 3-bet here w/o any read, that's just begging to lose money. I think a river bet is marginal, esp. considering he seems to like to c/r.

Mike

aLOWdAkING · #8 02-21-2005, 07:02 AM

Raising preflop will change the entire way the hand is played. You have a big hand, its a must to raise preflop.

In your line, 3 bet the flop and call down if he caps. Otherwise keep betting.

stonecoldnuts · #9 02-21-2005, 07:15 AM

I'd raise PF.
I'd 3 bet the flop and continue betting

Shoe · #10 02-21-2005, 07:22 AM

Ok, I will start raising here, would you raise with ATs as well, or is AJs the cut off, and would you raise with AJo here (pre-flop)?