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Old 02-20-2005, 12:50 AM
morgan180 morgan180 is offline
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Default my early tightening lessons continue

what d'ya think?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

SB (t750)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t915)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t785)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t750)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t35</font>, MP1 calls t35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t35, CO calls t35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t25, <font color="#666666"><font color="red">hero folds</font>.
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Old 02-20-2005, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: my early tightening lessons continue

You are getting 10 to 1 odds to see the flop with the 13th or so best starting hand in holdem and YOU complete the the betting. For 20 chips you are guarunteed seeing the flop. I think a fold here is awful.

Steve
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Old 02-20-2005, 01:29 AM
morgan180 morgan180 is offline
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Default Re: my early tightening lessons continue

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You are getting 10 to 1 odds to see the flop with the 13th or so best starting hand in holdem and YOU complete the the betting. For 20 chips you are guarunteed seeing the flop. I think a fold here is awful.

Steve

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My thinking was that AQo doesn't play well 5-handed out of position after the flop in the first level of a SNG.
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Old 02-20-2005, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: my early tightening lessons continue

it does when you flop top 2
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Old 02-20-2005, 01:37 AM
lacky lacky is offline
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Default Re: my early tightening lessons continue

at those odds with no risk of further betting, see the flop. If it's perfect, AQQ, QQ10, AQ5, Q72, you can check raise, if you dont like it you can check and fold.
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Old 02-20-2005, 02:12 AM
Mikey2k4 Mikey2k4 is offline
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Default Re: my early tightening lessons continue

Just don't get married to it. AQo is a good hand - pre-flop against a few players.

What if it's checked to you and the flop is all rags? You may be able to take the pot right there. Although actually an Axx flop has a better chance of winning it for you.

Also, you might hit your miracle KJT flop and take out guys right then and there. For 35, you shouldn't throw away your solid hands. And what's this about not having position?
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Old 02-20-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: my early tightening lessons continue

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And what's this about not having position?

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I'm in the BB.
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Old 02-20-2005, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: my early tightening lessons continue

I think folding for this much is bad. That's what I think.
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Old 02-21-2005, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: my early tightening lessons continue

Good fold. There will be plenty of better spots to get your money in.

To all those who think wasting 20 on this hand is good, why not just push and win it all now?
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Old 02-21-2005, 06:19 AM
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Agreed. Good fold.
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