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Old 02-19-2005, 08:19 PM
Nice_Guy Nice_Guy is offline
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Default QQ Easy fold on turn?

The villain in this scenario is playing 35% raising 11% preflop. I have no information on what his 3-bet standards are.

Is this a standard check/fold?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:24 PM
deadmunny deadmunny is offline
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Default Re: QQ Easy fold on turn?

mmmmmmm This is above my limit, I know @ $2/$4 I would probably check/call it down......... there are loads of hands where button could 3-bet, AJs, AQs, JJ, 10's...interested to see what the experts say,

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Old 02-19-2005, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: QQ Easy fold on turn?

i think you should have 3-bet him on the flop
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: QQ Easy fold on turn?

I figured I would get that suggestion right away. I thought about 3 betting but couldn't. He seemed to not fear the fact that I'm coming out betting after capping preflop and that gave me some cause to slow down. Weak?
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:40 PM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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Default Re: QQ Easy fold on turn?

The K isn't all that bad a card for you in this spot. Most opponents won't raise just overcards on the flop after you've capped preflop and led the flop so I think we're likely looking at a hand range of 99-AA against this opponent. You're still ahead of 99-JJ and way behind KK-AA so I think it's a call down. In fact the turn card is arguably a good one for you since it makes KK less likely.

I think you need to give more action on the flop, though. This guy isn't a rock.
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: QQ Easy fold on turn?

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The K isn't all that bad a card for you in this spot. Most opponents won't raise just overcards on the flop after you've capped preflop and led the flop so I think we're likely looking at a hand range of 99-AA against this opponent. You're still ahead of 99-JJ and way behind KK-AA so I think it's a call down. In fact the turn card is arguably a good one for you since it makes KK less likely.

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This was my thinking while playing the hand so I chose to call it down. It didn't sit right with me after the fact though.
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Old 02-19-2005, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: QQ Easy fold on turn?

I guess you have to call down.

6BB pot after the flop...Calling down cost 2BB


I think you are good atleast 20% of the time.
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Old 02-20-2005, 12:30 AM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: QQ Easy fold on turn?

I wouldn't fold. I definitely would have 3-bet the flop.

He could easily have 99-JJ.

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