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Lay down this AA?
Forgive me for posting this smaller stakes hand here but I would really like the opinions of the regulars on this one.
$1/$2 NL. There are 2 maniacs at the table going back and forth at each other nearly every hand. They just played a monster pot where one had A9 and the other K9...flop was J94. They played a big pot where the baord was 4567. They got all in. The guy with 74 won. Didnt see the others cards. One hand I raised to $10 with KK. They both called. The flop was K33 and one of them called me down all the way. I didnt see what he had. Maniac #1 has about $250. Maniac #2 has lost 3 buy ins now (one to me) and just reloaded to $200. I have them covered. Maniac #2 limps UTG. I raise to $12 with AA. Maniac $1 calls from the button and so does manaic #2. The pot is $40. The flop comes Tc9c3h. I have red aces. UTG maniac checks. I bet $30. Button maniac raises to $60. UTG maniac check raises to $90. Normally this is an easy fold against any sane competition. Is it still an easy fold against these guys? I mean against one of them I might continue, but against both ? With a min raise and min reraise? I almost pushed all in, but decided to fold. This hand is the first hand Ive actually lost sleep over in a long time. Easy fold? |
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Re: Lay down this AA?
I call the reraise looking to push if the turn does not bring a scare card...club,8/K, or pair the board.
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Re: Lay down this AA?
Easy push. You say they've played monster pots with middle pair-what's the question? you're essentially playing 2 random hands.
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Re: Lay down this AA?
I forgot too mention that guy who is down 3 buy ins and is UTG in this hand lost 1 buy in with 88 in a raised pot. The flop was AT5 all spades and there was the raiser AND another guy pouring chips in. It was a $600 pot total in this $200 buy in game.
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Re: Lay down this AA?
How were they pf? This might have been an oppurtune time to limp reraise...
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I was in MP and UTG had already limped
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Re: Lay down this AA?
If they are as bad as you say then put it all in the middle.
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Re: Lay down this AA?
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Easy fold? [/ QUOTE ] No, very hard fold. I would put them all-in on their draws. If someone hit a set, so be it, but their prior play shows no evidence of this. Past play demonstrates that they are over-playing 2nd and 3rd best hands. |
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Re: Lay down this AA?
90% of the online players cant laydown AA no matter what the action is to them. When I was a rookie poker player I couldnt either. Ive since learned that when I make a healthy preflop raise and get called twice, then I bet close to the pot and get raised not only once but twice, that Im beaten nearly every time.
Unfortunatly, this wasnt one of those times. I folded and the button called the reraise. The turn was another 9 making the board T939. UTG pushed all in and the button called. UTG had QQ and I didnt see what the button had. I still think 95% of the time this is a good fold, but against these 2 fools, it obviously wasnt. |
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Re: Lay down this AA?
Given your description, I have to push here. I don't want to outguess my AA. I feel quite sure I'm ahead in this hand. You could be up against KT, straight draw, something. If one has T9, life sucks - you're out a buy-in (although you have chances to draw out if the board pairs another card). The moral of the story - push and don't lose any more sleep over it, the decision is out of your hand now...
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